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Almost the Best Version


This version of arguably Shakespeare's most popular tragedy is tragic in and of itself in that it comes so close to brilliance but has imo one fatal flaw. It's so well acted and directed but regreattably, I have to give the edge to the 1996 version. The reason I say regrettably is that I agree with what many have said in that Olivier understood the Hamlet's character much better. Olivier played Hamlet as depressed, whereas Brannagh's was much more frustrated. In my experience, being caught between a rock and hardplace may be frustrating at first, but it eventually leads to depression. Brannagh's Hamlet just ups the frustration and yelling as the movie goes on. Also, Hamlet's Soliloqouies seem more contemplative to as opposed to angry in the text so again, I think Olivier's approach worked better. Olivier's version also has a scarier visit from the father Hamlet and much better and more realistic fight at the end, not to mention better Horatio and even a better Orsic. There are more ways in which Olivier's is better but I'd be here all day and I want people to actually read this, lol. The fatal flaw in Olivier's Hamlet lies in the cuts he makes and no, I'm not talking about R&G or even Fortinbras. They're important but they didn't sink this version for me. No, the problem lies in the soliloquies that Olivier cut. Olivier opens the movie saying that Hamlet is a man who could not make up his mind but then cuts out the two soliloquies where Hamlet talks about it! I really don't get it. Where else in the play, at least in terms of what remains in the movie, does Hamlet really talk about his inability to act? The more importance you give to the script and textual coherency, the more you have to give the edge to Brannagh, complete with its lackluster Orsic and completely not-ominous visit from the father Hamlet.

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Don't forget Gamlet.

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The Brannagh version is nowhere near as good, most people will agree on that.

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FINALLY, someone who agrees with me on Branagh. I see teachers and students and fans raving everywhere about the Branagh version, but its only utility as far as I can tell is that it's uncut, so you can see the entire play -- although I don't know how useful it is to see a gimmicky, overwrought production with little coherence in its psychological themes or even cinematic moods.

I thought Olivier was far more effective with his concentration on the emotional and atmospheric aspects of the play.



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IMHO this is the best version ever! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058126. ”Smoktunovsky was praised by Laurence Olivier for the leading role in 'Hamlet (1964)'", we are reading in his mini biography here http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0810550/bio and it’s known that “Larry” was not that generous with his rivals...

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I just wish he did the entire "O What a rogue and peasant slave am I." That is the best one ever.

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I already wrote that I believe the oxygen level has lowered to brain impairment levels.. last few years...
All the CocooPuffs, and Nature bars...
Olivier and Shakespeare, a great combination.
what's the point..

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lousvr,

That is a very typical and predictable 'opinion' - inevitable, even. It's oft-repeated, but offers no meaningful insight and simply re-states (always with attempts at cleverness) what's already been repeated for decades.

Without question, films and movies have been forced to degrade; it seems as though we must be near 'The Bottom' - after all, how much worse could it possibly get? Think 'FURIOUS 7'. Plausibility may be the clearest, most obvious and 'quantifiable' means of measuring this decline - as each year (since the so-called hey-day) events, action, writing, etc. results in movies in which 'that is simply not plausible' is axiomatic, then assumed, then it all deteriorates even further.

There's no Jumping The Shark necessary - watching all of the silly, immature and macho-based and ultra-implausible 'stunts', fights, etc. and the atrocious string of utter CLICHE' & PLATITUDES in that script that was obviously thrown together last-minute (by a truly pedestrian and weak writer who couldn't pass English 101 at a Community College) - all illustrate just how far the industry has fallen. Those who know-nothing attempting to pass themselves off as experts far above our heads; like naked children who believe themselves to be fully-clad and all-knowing Emperors...

The New Normal, to use one such Cliche', is for IMDB Fanboy types pontificate, whine, whine, whine, complain and lecture us all endlessly about, say, Violence - when none of these self-important and supremely ignorant, obtuse walking-cliche' types know a thing about actual Violence. They've never in their normal, boring lives seen or experienced any kind of true Violence (gladly, as it is awful, ugly and totally contrary to the heroic or romantic being Sold to American movie-goers incessantly).

IMDB FAN-BOYS: They pontificate and it's like being lectured by a pompous, know-it-all Fish describing it's Expert Authority Opinion about living in a tree-house...

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