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Phillipe at end - Spoiler?


Why did he keep saying that in the last scene about how important it was that he had broken the pot?

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We're you doing something else while watching the movie? The cops think they have found evidence exonerating Baines in discovering the broken flower pot and the woman's shoe print that was made in the strewn dirt. They conclude that Mrs. Baines broke the pot and made the footprint while making her way to the precariously situated revolving (can't think of a better way to describe it) window to stare in at the bedroom where Baines' honey was and subsequently was thrown to her death (and not pushed in any way by Baines) when the window flipped after she leaned on it. After having it drilled into him by Julie that only telling the truth would help Baines Phillipe tries to tell the cops that it was he that broke the pot, and not Mrs. Baines, which indeed was the truth. He had done it earlier in the day when making his way to the window. But by that time he had lost all credibility with them (plus I think they were more than happy at that point to stick with the scenario that they had come up with--if you know what I mean). Plus, the woman's shoeprint Mrs. Baines made was ultimately more important than who broke the pot, even though we know she had made it earlier in the day. But in my book even if they had taken time to seriously consider what he was saying and decided to believe that he did break the pot there was still her footprint, which did somewhat dilute the suspenseful effect of him possibly unjustly incriminating Baines by "telling the truth."

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I missed the first 2/3 of the movie, and thought there might be more to it than what you just explained. Thanks for taking the trouble to write all this.

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Haha. Ironically, if they had listened to Phillipe at the end, Baines would have joined Macgregor.






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I didn't quite get the ending either. I'd think Phillipe's revealing the "truth" and being discredited would make more sense if Baines was actually the murderer, but the police disregarded Phillipe and sticked to their findings. But as Baines was really innocent and the boy's statement didn't incriminate him in any way I found that a bit pointless.

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In my opinion, what was happening here was that Phillipe, in his confusion, mistakenly thought that the new piece of evidence that the police had just found would somehow prove Baines guilty when Phillipe knew it was he, Phillipe, who had knocked over the flower pot a day or two earlier and, realising that telling lies had got himself, Baines and Julie into a terrible dilemma, he tried desperately to get the police to listen to him as he told the truth. “Oh, sir, that was me, I knocked it over”, but, regarding him as a boy who had cried wolf, they ignored him. Phillipe, believing that this mistaken ‘evidence’ would enable the police to take his beloved Baines away from him forever, tries desperately to get their attention in what was obviously, to him, quite literally a matter of life and death: “Oh, sir, I have something to tell you, please listen to me, you must listen to me, it will only take a moment and it will put everything right!” This scene, with the terribly desperate little boy desperately trying to save his idol and the police totally ignoring him, is one of the most amazing things ever put on film.

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So, the police came to the correct conclusion (Baines was innocent), but the reasoning wasn't exactly correct. The end result, however, is what was important.

I'll add here that the child character thought something was important but really wasn't. And, if the child character thought it would have helped Baines, it actually wouldn't have.

It was a good ending in the sense that in the midst of a lot of confusion, justice was done.

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>>justice was done

By sheer accident. (Paging Joel and Ethan Coen. Joel and Ethan Coen to the courtesy red phone please.)

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I wanted to duct tape that kid's mouth. He was really getting annoying

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