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adultery goes unpunished


In 1947, when the Production Code was alive and well, women who committed adultery had to be punished in some obvious way (like, say, death) at the end of the movie. Not only was Nora "unpunished"--in the code sense-- but she got Robert Alda following her to a happily-ever-after at the end.
Kind of different, and nice.

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I think it made sense within the context of the film. Nora was a really decent person, and for most of her relationship with Dr. Talbot he was lying to her and telling her a divorce from his wife was imminent.

In most '40s movies, "the other woman" was usually portrayed as more of a temptress and a wicked person at heart, unlike Nora.

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Adam_P_L says > Nora was a really decent person
Okay, now that I've finally stopped laughing... What movie were you watching? How can you call Nora a decent person? She drove the man into lunacy; wrecked a family; helped put a man behind bars. Decent? Are you kidding me? What a joke!

She, at one point, even tells Richard she 'started all this for laughs; for a little fun'. I think she targeted the doctor. She admits she watched him and studied his behavior. She set up the 'accident' as a way to meet him. She knew he had a humdrum boring, routine life and it wouldn't take much, even a loser, tramp like her to derail his life. Spare me the decency stuff. She's anything but decent.

She got in a little too deep because the guy had been a decent man so he treats her well, better than anyone else had but it's too much for him so he loses it.

Why do you think the movie is entitled Nora Prentiss? I'm not saying Richard didn't bear some responsibility for his own actions but to me what she did was take advantage of someone in a weakened position; like when someone cheats an elderly person out of their life savings (or any amount of money). They take advantage of their trusting nature and any mental slowness they may be experiencing. Even if the elderly person takes the actions to turn over the money it's because they were set up and hoodwinked. It's hardly right and the person doing it is hardly decent.


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Well SHE was not married and at least potentially, the responsibility for adultery can always be blamed on the married dude.



"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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the married dude was always considered innocent, a victim of the vixen vamp who seduces him!

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Adultery is not the same thing as fornication. Adultery means cheating on your spouse. Nora wasn't guilty of anything, he was the guilty party.

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jblum315-733-998513 says > Adultery is not the same thing as fornication. Adultery means cheating on your spouse. Nora wasn't guilty of anything, he was the guilty party.
You sound like you are skilled in the art of justification. While Nora herself may not be married, she knows Richard is. To interfere with someone's marriage is to behave in an adulterous way. Even if she weren't having sex with him, which she most certainly was, it would still be adultery.

Would Richard have ever done any of the things he did if he hadn't met Nora and she hadn't lured him to become a cheater? Chances are, no! She enticed him so she's as responsible as he is; if not more. Some people have a negative influence over other people's lives and their own. That's why they're two-bit loser to start.

Today, most states have no-fault divorces so a lot of people aren't aware but at the time the movie was made she would have been named as a correspondent in a divorce proceeding. She would be guilty of having caused the divorce. Her name would have been dragged through the mud and she would have been exposed for what she is - a tramp.

People who are not married have to respect the vows of marriage like anyone else. It's not right to say, 'well, I'm not married so that makes whatever I do okay.' It's not okay; it never was and it never will be. A few states still have it on their books where a wife or husband can sue the tramp/jackass for 'alienation of affection' and actually win money damages if someone comes in and breaks up a marriage.

I realize some people may not agree but it does take two. Why do you think people wear rings; to remind themselves? No, it's to let others know of their status. In other cultures it's something else but there usually is something that lets others know this person is off limits. Cheaters cheat with someone else. If they want to be with that other person; fine. They should get a divorce and then move on. Grow up! Let the spouse move on with their lives too. No, they just want to have it their way and that's not right.


Woman, man! That's the way it should be Tarzan. [Tarzan and his mate]

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In his address to the 1988 Republican National Convention, Ronald Reagan introduced a section of his speech with the words:

"Before we came to Washington, Americans had just suffered the two worst back-to-back years of inflation in 60 years. Those are the facts, and as John Adams said, ?Facts are stubborn things.?"

This paragraph, and the following four paragraphs, finished with Adams?s words. However, at the end of the third paragraph, Reagan made a verbal slip, which he immediately corrected. A transcript of the speech reads,

"Facts are stupid things ? stubborn things, should I say. [Laughter]."

However, despite its origin as a slip of the tongue, "Facts are stupid things" has taken on a life of its own in the world of quotations by those ignorant of... the facts.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

-- John Adams

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whiskeyTango-06

You are totally correct; however, the clown who uses the out-of-context quote isn't bright enough to understand.

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but... all they did... was kiss.

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I think she even had her own room in the hotel. There may not have been any adultery.

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sleepybone says > Not only was Nora "unpunished"--in the code sense-- but she got Robert Alda following her to a happily-ever-after at the end. Kind of different, and nice.
I think you're wrong about the effect the code had on this movie. It's a good movie just as it is and it wouldn't have been any better if it were made at any other time.

Unpunished It depends on what one considers punishment. Nora has to carry a secret for the rest of her life. If she has any humanity, this will be a heavy burden. She will have to live with the fact she ruined a man's life; broke up a family; and is responsible for a man's imprisonment and eventual execution. Some people would consider that a big punishment; I would.

Phil Dinardo Phil was already in her life before Richard. He had shown interest in her but, as she said, he wasn't what she wanted. He's a nightclub owner so he doesn't have the status, wealth, prestige, or respectability she's after. To end up with him is to settle; to go back to where she started.

Dinardo may have a little more money and has taken a step up from where he was but, as a nightclub owner heavily in debt, he's still part of the world Nora wanted to run from; not run to.

Happily ever after ending Her happy ending would have been to marry Talbot and have a home. It was almost within her reach. She wanted the life Richard, the respectable, well-to-do doctor could give her. She was close; already getting expensive jewelry; fur coats; trips to the mountains; nights on the town; etc. only to lose it all. This is hardly the happy ending she envisioned. Also, happy endings don't usually involve people walking off into complete darkness. It's not the right tone to suggest good things are on the horizon.


Woman, man! That's the way it should be Tarzan. [Tarzan and his mate]

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Nora did not need to be "punished" as she was REDEEMED.

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You are spot on. I just watched and thought the same thing. Sheridan also finds forgiveness in The Unfaithful.

Even 100% innocent women who merely had sex outside marriage usually paid the ultimate price.

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There was never any implication that sex was had. They even had separate hotel rooms.

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