what's going on with mr. dean's little horse?
OK, everyone else gets to ride the big horseys, so what is up with Mr. Dean riding this little horsey. Is this supposed to symbolize his asexuality?
shareOK, everyone else gets to ride the big horseys, so what is up with Mr. Dean riding this little horsey. Is this supposed to symbolize his asexuality?
sharehahaha...I always thought it was a donkey. He looks funny though when it walks fast and he's bouncing up and down.
shareDean is supposed to be riding a small-stature Tibetan palfrey. Because the entire movie was filmed in England, they didn't have the real thing, so they substituted a smaller Shetland pony instead. This was one of the many things that Rumer Godden, the author of the original novel, objected to about the movie. In fact, after seeing the first screening of this movie, she vowed never to let another one of her books be made into a film. She changed her mind about letting them try to make movies from her books, but she never changed her mind about this film.
sharea better question is what's up with Mr. Dean's little shorts!?
shareMr. Dean is supposed to be the embodiment of worldly desire and sexuality. He wears those tiny shorts so you can see his gorgeous gams. It's supposed to be hot.
shareHe's the answer to the musical question "Who wears short shorts?"
shareMichael Powell stated that he specifically put the small "Himalayan" horses in the film because he saw them everywhere when he visited that region some years before the movie was made. Apparently they are (or were) quite common in the Himalayas.
shareThe 'little horse'meant to be a Tibetan kind of pony, is completely in keeping with what you'd find there. His little pants do look wierd, but nothing out of the ordinary for the time... (and may I add that we now have a generation of guys wearing shorts falling off their behinds and hanging down below their knees... which is really idiotic... can't wait for years to pass and they all figure it out). I don't see Dean as asexual at all... quite the opposite statement is being made. The sexual chemistry that exists between he and Sister
Clodagh is a major theme in the film. He's basically 'offered'the Jean Simmon's character too, but I don't think he turns her down because he's not interested... but because he's more interested in doing the right thing with this minor (he's a-religious, but completely moral... another point of tension in the story). As for Sister Ruth... he's sane... she's not... he knows this, and again, does the right thing by sending her back to the convent.
Thank you for your correct and thoughtful reply. It was obviously asked by a young person who didn't realize about the locale for the horse and David's attire.
I thought it is still an extremely good movie. And you notice there was not one foul word or any nudity. It keeps you interested, is romantic and mysterious.
In my opinion, if it gets remade, the powers that be will be making a mistake if they don't cast Anne Heche in the role of Sister Ruth........she is eerily a dead ringer for Kathleen Byron.
I really like this movie I am not an old movie buff but there are a few made in England in this period that I watch. It is true Kathleen Byron does look like Anne Heche.Oddly the movie is very contemporary the Indian furniture and those beautiful pierced screens are more available now.The Indian influence on clothes and jewelry was not as prevalent in the 1940's as it is today. Kathleen Byron could be striding through the East Village today in her Ugg like shearling boots and long dress. And of course her looks are much more in fashion now. It does not have the mustiness or creakiness of some old movies.It reminds me of A Passage to India - the paintings of the women from when it was a house of pleasure arousing subconscious primal thoughts in the nuns like the erotic sculptures at the cave in A Passage to India. Mr. Dean is also hunky in a more modern way he could hold his own today. Shangri - La which I havent seen in many years seems wooden and old in comparison.I think the scene in the beginning with all the decayed bird cages and the birds flying around is great it gives resonance to what was there before.
shareyes, she definitely looks like Anne Heche... though wouldn't that be ironic, her playing a nun!... but then again I guess if she had to play one, Sister Ruth would be the one!
shareWhat does "...a generation of guys wearing shorts falling off their behinds..." have to do with anything? First of all, that particular mode is a small part of hip hop styling that has been out of fashion for about 7 years now. You need to find something else to critisize in your racist rantings. Why don't you grumble about horseless carriages or that infernal rock 'n' roll young whippersnappers are always listening too on their transistor radios?
"Hot sun, cool breeze, white horse on the sea, and a big shot of vitamin B in me!"share
I beg your pardon, but who said anything about racism? That comment has nothing to do with race.
shareThen there's no reason to entertain another response or beg my pardon, is there?
"Hot sun, cool breeze, white horse on the sea, and a big shot of vitamin B in me!"share
Some body has a chip the size of a tree on his shoulder.
Yeah, I think there's reason to entertain another response.
How racist of you to decide than only young men of a certain race can wear a style of clothing.
The discussion turned towards fashion, and someone mentioned they don't like a particular one. Personally I too think it is annoying to see boys' underwear every on the street, but boys of all races try to rock that look.
The writer said nothing about the people who wear them or said anything racially divisive that I read.
And anyway, this is about a horse:
I thought Dean made some self-depricating remark about it the first day he rode up to meet Sister Clodagh, to the affect of him being a little ass himself or something, and that he'd rather ride the native transportation since he was a man of little consequence and low morals. (which he seemed to be proud of).
The short shorts I thought were because of the humidity. Why assume the trappings of a proper English gentleman if you're just going to end up wring wet? If you've left all that stiffness behind, might as well be comfortable, and flaunt it if you have it.
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shouldn't you be complaining in a thread about racists when there are actual proven racists present? oh, wait. that's you.
ever hear Billie Holliday's "Stange Fruit"? She talking about my kin, ok, Mr. "I'm being oppressed"?
You know what, I was wrong. You don't deserve anymore attention.
Mr. Deans pony is a breed native to northern India called a Bhotiya pony.
shareNot really - it's a Shetland pony. They didn't bring authentic horses to the UK just for this film, and it was shot (entirely, I believe) in the UK. The fact that Mr. Dean's feet practically drag on the ground while riding his pony is a reason they shouldn't have bothered using these Shetlands.
One funny thing about Sister Clodagh riding a pony at the end - her pony seems to yawn twice, in a big way, and they kept that scene in, rather than re-shoot it. The pony's behavior distracts from the seriousness of the dialogue.
I thought it was because the director was trying to show just how "out of place" these Europeans are in this region. Nothing quite fits them.
"Hot sun, cool breeze, white horse on the sea, and a big shot of vitamin B in me!"share
Actually I think the little horse represents Dean's real problem: he has a little penis. Why else would he live out in the middle of nowhere and refuse women? He is apparently not gay. Thus he is insecure of his sexuality because of his shortcomings.
I.S. Oxford
"The books have nothing to say!"
-- Fahrenheit 451
Except that he implies earlier that he shags a lot of the local women. He doesn't refuse women. He refused one woman, who was a loon, and might conceivably take a pair of scissors to his old fella' while he slept. A wise decision if you ask me.
shareApparently they are (or were) quite common in the Himalayas.