Sentimental Tripe


I'm a sentimental guy, I can appreciate the innocence of eras gone by, but I find it hard to believe that there was ever really a time when audiences were sappy enough to enjoy this kind of tripe.

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Sentimentality, nostalgia and artistic license intertwine. Coming of age is bittersweet and full of angst and The Yearling captures nature boy struggling to keep one foot in childhood and one in adulthood. He's a modern day Pan. I like the movie, thought it was hilarious in moments and really drove home the issue of loss and growth. Yeah, I enjoyed the movie and I suppose popularity of theme, dialog and scenery are why it caputred several Oscar nominations. Re: Jane Wyman, my gosh, what a bi*** but also what a performance.

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In virtually all my many posts, I have been a champion for people being allowed to express their opinions (at least if done without nastiness), no matter that they see things in a alternate universe kind-of-perspective. And I will continue that tradition here, though I must say that reading your (jamessherman's) opinion above made me wonder if I hadn't been transported to some other plane of existence. What? Wasn't there enough bloodshed? enough hositility? enough explicit sex? enough gratuitous explosions to suit the modern audience? For many brought up on daily doses of the insipid tripe (good word) offered up by television--hour after hour of (with only a very few notable exceptions) people cheating on each other and spraying venomous insults in every direction--it might be hard to think that the people inhabiting the world depicted in this faithful adaptation of Marjorie K. Rawlings' novel are anything but fantasy constructs with not the slightest connection to the real world. Decency? A father who uses encouragement, love and simple home-spun wisdom to steer his child toward adulthood instead of put downs, sarcasm, and/or a leather belt? Haven't heard anything so ridiculous since Harper Lee created that other fantastical creature, Atticus Finch? Sadly, this IS the undoubted feeling of many today. And boy, aren't we the worse for it.

For me, this movie embodies the spirit of what I'd wish for any of us. I don't mean living isolated in the woods, with less than the minimum of modern conveniences--though being closer to nature certainly wouldn't be a bad thing. I refer to that core of decency and warmth which pervades the film (Heaven forbid that we should expose our children to such concepts!). Peck's Penny Baxter--much like his Atticus in To Kill a Mockingbird--is what all parents should be, supportive, forgiving, patient, a great listener, and yes, decent. He makes mistakes, but his unwavering devotion, his determination to nuture and protect those he loves is unquestioned, making it easy to forgive the occasional transgression.

In other hands, this film might have come off as sentimentalised hogwash, but under the direction of Clarence Brown (who was also at the helm of another great children's classic, National Velvet), the wonderful Claude Jarman, Jr., and Gregory Peck, the anchor of the film, in one of his best performances, every situation, every line of dialogue is sold with an assurance borne of complete conviction. This cast carries us easily through Jody's odyssey from childhood toward adulthood, through all the stops at sadness, wonder, joy, responsibility, comedy, and tragedy. For me, this is not merely a good juvenile film, but a great film that should appeal to anyone who hasn't given up on hope for a better world.

"I'm a lover of beauty--and a beauty of a lover!"--The Court Jester

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Thanks. By-the-way, what does "nm" mean? Cheerio!

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Thank you, I almost wrote that myself.
I would like to add that I may be the only person who totally sympathizes with Ora (Jane Wyman). She is REAL and once her history is explained almost noble.
Because when she is trying to be soft with her family they take notice because they love her and knows that she has their best interests at heart.
Her toughness is exactly that, she has become that way over the years because of loss and suffering and having the joy and romance taken out of her life.
So when she is confronted by genuine kindness (the neighbour noticing her and Penny buying her new material) she is overwhelmed and reminded that there are nice things in life. Only then can she cry with appreciation or smile.
A VERY touching portrait to balance Gregory Peck's very human and loving father and a son who loves and trusts life but has to know hardship to bring about more love and understanding for his parents.

There will never be another film like this, because there CAN'T be anymore.
And this film cannot be judged or appreciated by people overdosed on bleached teeth, silicone lypo-ed, walking photoshopped mini adult 12 year olds pouring out 'wisdom' to their shopping mall virtual-gym workout parents.

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Thank you for your excellent comments!

I also empathize with Ora--even if at the same time I am often annoyed with her. It's more than understandable that she would build a fortress around her heart in an attempt to protect herself from further loss. But at the same time, her coldness and harshness is difficult to take. Penny Baxter must have had the patience of a saint to endure her emotional (and no doubt sexual) withdrawal.

I'm not so sure that I would quite agree with the idea that there is no possibility of a film like this ever being made again, however. It's certainly rare, but once in a very great while, a quality film comes along that is not afraid of goodness and sentiment. One fairly recent film that comes to mind is Babe, a film I admire about as much as this one.

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How could I forget BABE?!!!:)

I guess I mean that there will never be a face like the boy Claude Jarman Jr's which will convey that dreamy innocence and sweetness and that yearning earnest love and devotion that stayed (with me at least) well after the movie was over.

You also say 'Penny Baxter must have had the patience of a saint'. I agree but I know that it is not a rare thing to find in a ordinary man who loves his loyal and supportive wife and witnessed and shared with her the loss of their (3 in film, 6 in book I think)children in infancy. Women could suffer from intense depression from such events and REALLY isolate themselves from all human contact. We have so much more insight and treatment for such traumas nowadays.
But it's not like he had loads of women around to leave her for, when the times got tough. And she likewise didn't 'go anywhere', just took it all in her stride albeit without a smile and carried on helping him on the farm and feed and clothe their son. There wasn't anything else to do. But her heart would stay broken inside.

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Yes, Claude Jarman, Jr.'s performance was terrific. I guess they gave him a "special" Oscar. It's funny how children are so rarely nominated for best actor or supporting actor when they have given so many memorable performances. But his was one of the best.

Yes, I don't think it would have been conceivable for this character--Penny--to have left her. I don't know how long I would have lasted, however.

Regardless, this remains for me one of my all-time faves--one of the most beautiful, heartrending, joyous and thrilling films I've every seen.

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Having read through this thread, I'm struck by the number of those who completely missed the period of the film and its characters. From time to time I come across the same cultural differences in the youth of today who take all that we have in the 21st Century for granted.

THE YEARLING is set immediately after the end of the Civil War. At that time the only vaccinations available were for rabies and smallpox. Smallpox was preventative and rabies was after exposure. Unfortunately most people did not have access to that benefit of health care. Today we have vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough (pertussis), diphtheria, tetanus and polio. Any one of these or a simple cold could have carried off Orrie's and Penny's babies. There were three graves in the film and six in the book. Post partum depression, which is presumably the illness Orrie suffered from, had no treatment in the 19th Century. I'm uncertain that it had a name. In rural Florida it would certainly have been an unknown mental condition.

To those of you who believe that Jody behaved in a sentimental manner, or that he was naive, he lived more than 150 years ago. This child had never traveled more than 5 miles from his home before he ran away. He had to carry all the water they used from the pump into their house. They had no flush toilet, no running water and no bath or shower in their home. Chances are you have running water in your kitchen, hot and cold and the same in your bathroom no matter how poor you may be. When Jody went to town with his father, he was impressed with the sights. Are you judging his reactions and comparing him with a child from the 21st Century?

Jody never attended school a day in his life but all of you do. You see or speak with your friends on the telephone regularly. For Jody it was a special day when he saw his friend Fodderwing. He lived too far away to attend school in town. Jody learned the alphabet at his mother's side and reading from Orrie. Going to church on holidays was a treat. If you wish you can attend any worship service you like and many if not most of you live close enough to have your choice of any religious service you wish to attend. These changes, i.e., neighborhood schools, local churches, utilities, suburbs, all happened in the 20th Century and are all taken for granted by nearly everyone, especially the younger generations. They haven't always been available to everyone.

It goes on but it seems to me that it isn't Jody who is naive but rather the viewers who are somewhat jaded and cynical. Jody's a boy whose life is like that of one who lived in a western...but you missed it a little. It happens.

Try this, see if it helps: imagine Jody as the son of a poor farmer from a western. Penny scratching in the dirt, trying to feed his family from year to year, hunger hovering over their cabin like a ghost. True, unlike the sere desert west they could always hunt deer, feral hogs or go fishing, but they depended on the corn crop for their daily bread. It was cornbread they ate day in and day out. They were not short of water, but they still had to haul it in buckets and tubs. Do you remember that they were saving to dig a new brick well for their yard?

It was the lush and verdant beauty of Florida that fooled you all. It does that, don't be surprised. In the 19th Century steamboats on the St John's River transported people on the waterway. Still the interior was a mystery to most people.

How do I know all this? My grandmother told me stories about living in the woods. She was a pioneer. My family history goes back long before that Jody's family's time in Florida. The Minorcans who came to Florida more than 250 years ago are my ancestors on my mother's side of the family. If you'd like to know our history, Google Minorcan + St Augustine.

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I like what you've written here, but don't understand what prompted it. You say that you were "struck by the number of those who completely missed the period of the film . . . ." I don't see any evidence for this. I for one was certainly aware of the approximate time frame in which the story unfolded, and fail to see any striking examples in the comments of the other posters to indicate they were thinking it took place more recently. There were, after all, plenty of reminders throughout the film (as you indicate) to demonstrate that it took place before the modern era.

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It's a great film and I thought it was sad!

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I liked the movie better when I muted the overdone music. Because seriously, several scenes had music more appropriate to a finale.

As for the boy being gone for three days in the late 1800's, it wasn't unusual for boys to strike out on their own and to make it, find work, and live a life somewhere else.

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Most definitely, on both counts!

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I'm a sentimental guy, I can appreciate the innocence of eras gone by, but I find it hard to believe that there was ever really a time when audiences were sappy enough to enjoy this kind of tripe.
HA!!! Did you say tripe? or did you mean "trip" because reading your comments certainly made me think you might be coming down from a particularly bad one. And these comments coming from one who counts The Sound of Music among his 10 favorite films?! a film packed with enough overwrought sugary sentiment in its bloated 174 minutes to turn those living hills into giant ice cream sundaes. I actually have no problem with your loving TSOM, but sentiment reeks from its every pore, so to knock The Yearling for being sappily sentimental seems far from even handed. The Yearling IS sentimental, but "twm-2" (above) is right, the performances are so right on, so natural, so sincere, that they sell that sentiment with conviction. Claude Jarman Jr. acts circles around the entire brood of juvenile actors in TSOM, and Gregory Peck is wonderful as the father a lot of kids wish they had had--kicking the stuffing out of Christopher Plummer's performance. There is nothing wrong with sentiment, certainly nothing wrong with a dose of innocence--heck even a dollop of sappiness has its place . . . as a casual glance at your list of favorite movies will reveal.

PS. Didn't I see The Wizard of Oz in that top 10 list of yours?

"Sometimes you have to let art . . . flow over you."--The Big Chill

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I'm willing to give it another watch. Maybe I was in the wrong kind of mood when I saw it. That affects your take.

What say there, Fuzzy Britches? Feel like talking?

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Howdy!(to jescci)~ Maybe so. Certainly with me, I've seen a film and thought it no great shakes, and then happened to see it a second time and with that second viewing my appreciation was increased dramatically. Or possibly, for reasons that could never be fully articulated, The Yearling just doesn't do it for you, the way The Rules of the Game and Nosferatu (two films that have been given nearly unanimous praise from critics) didn't do it for me. Its good that you're open minded enough to give it another go sometime--just like I'll have to give "Rules" and Nosferatu another try in future. Hope your second viewing is a more enjoyable one. Cheerio!

"Nothing in this world is more surprising than the attack without mercy!"--Little Big Man

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I enjoyed it when I saw it years ago. I guess that makes me sappy. So what.

After reading all that's been written about it here, if ever it comes on TCM or AMC I'm watching it again. If it's on at 3:00 AM I'm taping it.

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Ha, ha! Yes, viva le sappy!

"Sometimes you have to let art . . . flow over you."--The Big Chill

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No need to be rude.

"Sometimes you have to let art . . . flow over you."--The Big Chill

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;-{ Life must not be very enjoyable for you.

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What do you say of the newer audiences who actually enjoyed crap like Howard the Duck, Boxing Helena, Up the River, Porkys The English Patient, etc.?
Give me The Yearling everytime.

Try reading the book--you might learn something.



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i don't think there's anything wrong with liking this movie and getting emotional about it - nor with dismissing it as pap. i think something interesting to do is to pay attention to how you react personally to documentary footage of animals, and baby animals, and cartoons, and computer animation - and then compare it to live-action portrayals of similar circumstances. weird, right? most would say that the live-action human stuff seems hokier and the drawn stuff more believable. then in the live animal footage, these things are mixed... is there a thesis in this?

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