Passage of time.


Has anyone else noticed the oddities of the timeline in this movie?

George was 12 in 1919 when he saved his brother from the lake, so he was born in 1907.

I believe he was 21 at his brother's graduation party, so that would have been 1928 but everyone is dressed like it's 1945, yet they are dancing the Charlston. A few years later when he visits Mary after his brother got back from college, it would have been around 1932 and it's the same thing. Mary has a 1940's dress on and so did Violet. The record player looks 40's too. Didn't they wind up in the 20's and early 30's?

It's just at the close of WWII, so 1945, when George is on the brink of suicide, so that means almost 15 years have passed since he married, yet his kids are all still small and he and Mary both look young. Everyone looks the same, except in the alternate universe where they have harder looking faces.

Picky, picky, ya I know..

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A few years later when he visits Mary after his brother got back from college, it would have been around 1932 and it's the same thing. ....The record player looks 40's too.


If you're referring to the Buffalo Gals record they're playing, that phono most certainly is a windup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNE0bqxDOiU At 0:22 seconds you can see she's lifting an acoustic tone arm pickup.

I can't speak to the fashions.



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OK, I'll take your word for it. But where would the crank be?

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The crank would about 12" down from the top of the machine, usually on the right side. I didn't see it when I looked again at that link.

It could be too dark to see it in the shot or if the phone was a studio prop, it might not even been attached (they are removable by cranking counter-clockwise).

The last possibility is that this machine, even though it's an acoustic phono, could have had an electric motor. I saw a very nice Victrola that had a factory installed AC turntable motor instead of a spring wound motor but were very rare do to the extra cost, and most folks back then were thrifty and didn't mind cranking a phono for 30 seconds to get three record's worth of play time, plus they were trouble free. Many early Model Ts that had a starter motor as an option were also bought without the starter, but relied on the hand crank instead.

According to the following link, the first Victrola with an AC motor was introduced in the teens, something I didn't know:

http://www.victor-victrola.com/History%20of%20the%20Victor%20Phonograph.htm


"In 1913, the first electric motor option became available on the Victrola XVI, eliminating the need for cranking after every few records were played. Victrolas with electric motors were called "Electrolas". This option didn't really catch-on until well into the 1920's, as electrical power was not yet readily available, and the added cost of the motor was prohibitive for most buyers."

So Mary's acoustic phono could have featured a plug in AC motor.

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Interesting article. I wonder what happened to Berliner.

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Excellent question. Some quick searching produced a Wiki page. The flat gramophone record invention apparently was not a fluke. He then went into other areas such as aviation. Check this out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Berliner

Too bad he was never a household name. He could have taken lessons from Edison when it came to self-promotion...

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Prolific guy. Maybe he wasn't interested fame. Seems like he was wealthy though.

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I'm not sure about the timelines, but I've always found it kind of funny that Jimmy Stewart is playing a college-aged person for much of the movie and he looks like he's about 50.

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Haha. Yeah. He was almost 40 when they filmed. I was actually thinking that when I wrote the OP.

Yes, they all look the same age throughout the whole movie once they're grown up.

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It being black and white though helps with the illusion. Also their oldest son looks like he could be 13 in the climax of the movie. To me anyway. So him looking that old helps with the passage of time imo. At least they aged Potter pretty well. Towards the end of the movie he is so old, he is being pushed around in a wheelchair.

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With blankets on his lap!

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Yeah, it doesn't really seem like they tried to make George look at all like a younger man. Seems they'd at least give him a different hairstyle or something, I dunno.

I'm actually surprised to hear that he was not even 40 years old yet when the movie was filmed. He looks at least 45 to me. It's laughable, really.

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People were chain smokers back then, lol. It ages the face like there's no tomorrow.

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LOL, no kidding! it wasn't bad enough that so many people smoked, but everyone smoked whether they wanted to or not. Back in the old days, people smoked in the supermarket, restaurants, movie theater, even during school plays. You got a lung full of smoke pretty much anywhere you went.

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I remember at least one scene where the doctor is smoking during an exam and it wasn't a parody. Some old elevators still have ashtrays. lol

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As late as the early '70s I had two doctors who smoked during an exam, in the tiny exam room. One of them smoked a cigar.

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The added a LOT of gray at the temples for the "last age of George", and some wrinkles too.

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