vs 'The King and I'


Which portrayal do you prefer Yul Brynner / Rex Harrison ?

Deborah Karr / Irene Dunne ?


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All four performances were very good, however, I feel Rex Harrison's portrayal
of the King in Anna and the King of Siam was outstanding. Later in the story,
when he finally shows his evil side, Harrison's transformation is incredible.

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What do you mean shows his evil side?

I just believe he made a wrong decision based on tradition and pride.

Does this make him evil? Or human? Or just someone who made an extremely bad choice?

I do agree with you though that his performance was outstanding. I found it hard to believe that was Rex Harrison on the screen. He became the King.






"Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand."

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Maybe not as much evil as he was barbaric, especially in his treatment of women.

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Hmmm...

Thank you for your clarification.

I believe that maybe HE wasn't necessarily barbaric. He was just relying on old customs and traditions of his country that were barbaric.

I don't believe he was barbaric because after all he was trying to change the customs and be more modern.

Why I am being so defensive of him I don't know.


So you think *I'm* the murderer? What do I have to do to convince you that I'm not….. be the next victim?

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Burning your wife at the stake because she leaves you is not "human," it's "EVIL."

Admittedly this is an unbelievably racist production, the insults that they are somehow less than and uncivilized because they are not British in their customs and manners, the constant subserviance of all the people in the castle to this teacher...., telling her they are less than she is, can never be what she is, do what she does.... But, it is still evil to torture people by burning them at the stake. It is human to fight the impulse to strike back when hurt or embarassed, and not give in to baser natures. We alone among living beings can recognize the need to strive to be better. The values of Asian countries and their religions recognize this even more than most parts of Christianity, the way they have followers turn inward rather than follow an Earthly leader. Even if they don't dwell on concepts of evil the way western religions do, they get to the same place by striving for the betterment of their soul, fighting earthly desires, selfishness, materialism, sometimes carnal desires, and definitely fighting the desire to hurt others. Evil is evil. Torture and killing are evil even if within the king's prerogative.

It can be an evil act without making him an evil person. Such a judgement may not be for other people to make, but at a minimum, it takes more than one terrible choice to qualify as an evil person. He stove to be a better person most of the time. That counts for more than a single hideous act.

I agree that he transformed himself as an actor when making this terrible decision, exercising his royal prerogative. The hurt, pain, humiliation, anger, petulance, etc, all shown in his demeanor. A 10 performance.

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This one. It gives you much more of a sense of the real Siam at that time, and its "very old and very proud history" as well as the political realities at the time and just what Mongkut was up against. No film shows you the half of what the real Mongkut was like and did, but this comes closer than the cartoonish portrayals of Brynner and even Chow (who is way too young and heavy for the part -- nobody'd ever call him a 'spare man'!). Check out the story of Anna that is on the DVD. There should have been another one just about Mongkut himself.

Harrison/ Dunne. They actually took a little time to find out what the real people were like. Harrison's posture, with his left arm bent and hand relaxing downward, was characteristic of the real Mongkut; Anna suspected he'd had a stroke. He's also got that silent laugh down.

So even with the BS about the utensils at the dinner party and Tuptim which didn't happen in real life, this is the best film we have so far IMNSHO etc., etc., etc.

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If anyone is interested in some info about her time in Siam (now Thailand) and herself in general, also King Mongkut, check out this site: www.thaistudents.com/kingandi/owens.html

Her story I always found interesting.

"I promise you, before I die I'll surely come to your doorstep"

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I like the Harrison/Dunne performances better, but Brynner looked better in his costume. He had the most beautiful legs. He was a joy to watch.

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Irene Dunne BY FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Deborah Kerr was a very wooden actress in my opinion. Irene was the best, she deserved an Oscar nomination for this movie.

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I loved both of them. This version is truer to the actual story of Anna and Maha Mongkut as much as a film could capture all that went on in the palace when Anna was there teaching the king's children - a fascinating story. The musical is in rich color with wonderful songs, costumes, and an enjoyable performance by Yul Brynner who I also saw on Broadway. But he was not at all like the actual king as Anna described him.

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Yul Brynner and Rex Harrison both tie. Each of them have their moments but ultimately I don't think I could pick between the two.

but for Anna Irene Dunne without a question

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Well, I keep expecting them to start singing . . .

"In my case, self-absorption is completely justified."

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Yesterday I would have said Yul B. -- but I just watched this version again this morning and I have to say Rex Harrison did do a fantastic job.
They were both pretty darn spectacular kings.

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I like them both


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