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Somebody explain this to me........


In the beginning of the film, Margy tells Harry that she loves old houses and old fashioned ways of doing things, instead of the up-to-date modern way he wants to do things. Then at the end of the movie, she agrees to marry a guy who lives in the big city away from old things and old ways of doing things. So....was she being untrue to herself? Or had she changed her mind and was now gung-ho for modern things like Harry was in the beginning?

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I think the fact that gorgeous Jean fell for lucky Dana was a trade-off-based-on-love for both of them. Jean got a guy who was both practical and worldly, instead of a "space cadet" who believed everything he read in Popular Science.

And Dana got a beautiful, romantic young lady who restored his lost faith in romance, instead of a jaded city girl who shared little more than his growing cynicism.

Holy Mackerel, I fall in love with Jean every time I watch this movie. When she struts down the midway in those white ankle-strap high heels, I suddenly find myself agreeing that it's a fine night for singing, yes siree.

And when Jean shows up at the food judging contest in that red velvet outfit . . . well, Ma's boozed-up mincemeat couldn't leave me more cross-eyed.

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If only women dressed and groomed themselves like that today! There was something sweet, endearing and innocent about the way gals dolled themselves up back then. What a loss to womanhood for this generation. Guess I was born a generation too late.

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Yes the outfits were extremely cute, but a loss to womanhood? Most of us work now and have much more important things to do than doll ourselves up for the pleasure of men. What a gain for womanhood, I say!

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This movie was made during WW2. Most women were working then too. (And hard blue collar jobs not sitting on cushioned seats in air-conditioned offices. Rosie the Riveter and all that. And even housework and child-rearing were far more labor intensive than they are today.)

Yet, they dressed nicely when they went out on dates or went to church/school or even ran errands. Men did as well. People believed in appearing well-dressed when they went out in public. It is sad we've lost that.

Yes, it isn't practical to wear a suit and tie to a ballgame or wear high heels and stockings to do grocery shopping.

Yet, we've seemingly traded one extreme for another. I've repeatedly seen people show-up to funerals, wakes, weddings, and job interviews dressed like they rolled-out of bed. I once worked in a law office that didn't have a written dress code. It was just assumed that the employees would know to dress nicely in a law office. That is until one of the support staff showed-up wearing a fishnet tank-top apparently so he could go out clubbing right after work without having to change. A written dress code was instituted the next day. (I also saw a female attorney repeatedly show-up to court wearing outfits that would shame a street walker including a skin-tight dress with cut-outs on the sides. Eventually, a female judge booted her from court until she dressed more professionally. She did shape-up a bit, but she still looked like she was wearing a "sexy attorney" Halloween costume.)

We've had young college women visit the president at the White House wearing flip-flops. We had crowds of people paying respects to a deceased president lying in state while wearing shorts and tank-tops. Slob culture. And we're stuck with it. No putting the toothpaste back in the tube.

There's also the chicken-or-the-egg debate as to the shocking rise of obesity rates in this country. Would we have as many morbidly obese people if they had to wear appropriate fitted clothing in public? Would they let themselves go so badly? Or have we enabled the morbidly obese by not rising an eyebrow at their sweatpants and pajamas at Walmart?



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More like 10 generations. Where have you been?

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also alot of girls dont know how to 'groom' themselves like that, and also if you havent noticed their arent alot of those kinds of clothes unless you wanna pay alot.











"The only Abnormality is the incapacity to love"

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Have you noticed how men, especially young men, have dressed for at least the last twenty years??? Young women at least still make an effort, even if older generations don't appreciate the fashions. It's a good thing that the biological mating urge is so strong, because IMO if girls had to be "inspired" by the way men dress, they'd be too discouraged to continue! ;-)

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Along with how nice women (and men) dressed in this time period, I've noticed in most movies up through most of the fifties and some of the sixties quite a difference in how people, in general looked as respects fitness. In stock scenes of crowds, RARELY, if ever, do you notice someone who is morbidly obese, but when I look at most people today, I can't say the same. And it wasn't because women worked less then--if anything that would have been more of a reason to put on the pounds, but if you honestly take a look at Americans today, a high percentage are not just a few pounds overweight, but morbidly so. Of course there have been overweight people throughout all times, but sadly it seems to be accepted as the norm today. That's one reason why looking at older flix, to me, is encouraging, because for whatever reason you want to state as the causative factor, men and women looked physically more fit than they do today. Just my opinion!

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I was looking at some You Tube video the other day from 1975 of crowds of young people (teens and 20s) filing into a stadium for a rock concert. They were ALL thin as a rail---not a single overweight or obese person in the crowd. It's shocking to realize how our public has changed in the last 35 years. We live with it every day and just don't notice it.

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I think film studios would always choose thinner people to be stood in the background in movie shots, they would look better on the eye to the viewing public.

Nowadays though people just eat too much fast food ie Big Macs and Frech Fries.

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The infamous "Heavy Metal Parking Lot" video that was filmed in a parking lot prior to a 1986 Judas Priest concert in Maryland also shows how much we've physically changed over the last few decades.

That parking lot was filled with mullet-headed 80's burn-outs, but there is hardly an obese or even a significantly overweight person in sight. Today, though, you'll get a very different picture outside any sort of concert and I'm not talking about mullets.

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I think she went with the other gentleman because he had shown general interest in her and her interests. Harry was interested in being in charge and marrying Margy because it had always been expected the two would marry.

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Harry represents the dullness and sameness that Margy is longing to escape. Also Harry is far more interested in farming than he is in romance. Pat represents adventure and a different world. He is a romantic figure. Pat is the "somewhere else, walking down a strange new street" and she hears from him "words that I have never heard, from a man I chance to meet". Harry is nothing to her but an "air-conditioned, patent leather farmhouse, on our ultra-modern, scientific farm". Margy isn't really talking about about liking old houses and old-fashioned ways doing things, but about the romance behind them.

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City isn't necessarily modern, especially in the 40's. That said, Love isn't logical either. Besides, what girl wouldn't fall for Pat over Harry. I think they made the point that she had no real interest in Harry to begin with, Isn't that what "It might as well be spring" is all about, waiting to be swept off her feet.

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