While watching "Scarlet Street' for the second time, I was really amazed at how the murder was handled; Robinson stabbing Bennett with the icepick...
.....I watched it, one frame at a time, and could see just how it was done....you can see Joan ducking under the blanket, then Robinson stabs here......I thought that surely there would be a cut from her to him, which, of course, would mean that she got out of the bed and they used a pillow, etc., for him to stab.
....Not so!! if you watch this frame at a time, you can see that after she ducks under the covers, he stabs her!! if there was an edit/cut there, I sure couldnt see it!!
and yes, it was kind of depressing, but not a 'bad' depressing...
I agree that murder scene was very very well done, and totally shocking to me I didn't see it coming at all. It's not a movie I would see again though, I just felt so horrible for Chris the entire film lol
"You're killin' me Smalls!"
The original version of the murder was censored in a few states so the studio re-edited it...OH what I'd give to see the original scene!!
STILL cannot figure out how it was done!!!!!!!
oh well, just meant for us to enjoy and not try to 'dissect' too closely!!
While watching "Scarlet Street' for the second time, I was really amazed at how the murder was handled; Robinson stabbing Bennett with the icepick
all the concluding frames are masterful by Lang, Bennett's murder in her bed (we feel dread despite of her previous amoral speech), the mistaken execution of Duryea's character (who cracks up inviting us compassion, after all he needed her as much as Kitty needed him) until the unpredictable and late punishing ending Lang inflicts on Edward G. Robinson. Terrible but masterful.
I liked the way in which the themes of masculinity and femininity were incorporated into Scarlet Street. The extent in which the protagonist's masculinity is reduced by his Wife and home life, the portrait of her former Husband a constant reminder of his inferior masculinity. Even more so is his masculinity reduced by Kitty which is were femininity comes into play.
Kitty used her feminine side to manipulate the protagonist both emotionally and financally, making the protagonist emasculated. Yet femininity has a weak side in Scarlet Street as Johnny manipulates Kitty's femininity to get his own way. By controlling Kitty, Johnny consolidates his own masculinity by being the dominant male in their relationship. To sum up Scarlet Street shows us the pros and cons of masculinity and femininity.
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not".
For the stabbing scene, they probably just used a prop ice pick with a retractable spike, like they do with knives - it simply goes up into the handle. Pretty easy, I should think.
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Just got the Alpha Video dvd release of this great film. I did see the transition just before the stabbing. It happens as Edward G. raises the ice pick and right after Ms Bennett ducks under the covers. It is easy to miss but there is definitly a very minute transition which is best seen at regular speed and not frame by frame. A very well done scene and most assuredly very shocking for a 1945 audience.
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Wish I could have seen the transition you speak of, but I didn't.....Someone else replied here that the ice pick probably had a retractable 'blade' and that's why it was so easy to do.........I tend to agree with this.......but then, your observation of the 'transition' is very interesting!!
Now I"ll have to see it again.......and keep my eyes peeled!!
But the 'fake' ice pick is also possible! after all, it was Hollywood!!