Pretty Awful


Just another film that requires you to flip your brain off to get past the stupidity of the premise. Like domestic staff is really going to risk jail time for a paycheck. I know, I know it happens all the time in the movies ... just not in real life. Yeah and someone that doesn't even merit a name badge goes to war in a secret compound for Dr. Evil. Cue the Austin Powers music because it's the same mindless garbage.

And how were they going to get the death of the fake wife over the real wife's family and loved ones?

Sometimes rarely shown films are rarely shown for a reason. They stink.

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Like domestic staff is really going to risk jail time for a paycheck. I know, I know it happens all the time in the movies ... just not in real life

Yeah nobody ever commits a crime for profit in real life.

The only two of the staff who were in on the crime were Sparkes and Peters. Alice and the gatekeeper were innocent. Mrs. Hughes told Ralph they knew things on Sparkes & Peters so they wouldn't talk. There was every indication judging by this and their menacing demeanor that Sparkes & Peters were not mere servants but probably had criminal records.

And how were they going to get the death of the fake wife over the real wife's family and loved ones?

Ralph told Julia that the real Marion's parents were dead and that she had no close family.

See how much more movies make sense when you actually pay attention instead of being a whiney malcontent? Just a suggestion but maybe next time eat your corn flakes without pissing on them first.

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Exactly how many of the staff need to make decisions no rational person would make before this movie sucks? And since you went the way of personal insults, why don't you change your user name to fuctard14 as it clearly suits you.

What was going to be the end game to this farce? What newspaper was not going to print photographs of Julia Ross when she goes missing? What newspaper has ever not shown photographs of young and pretty women that go missing? So the staff not involved not to mention the people from town that have seen her face are going to do what then? The whole scenario is so beyond stupid, that it gives stupidity a bad name.

See how movies don't make sense when you really pay attention? Just a suggestion for you, Dick.

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Exactly how many of the staff need to make decisions no rational person would make before this movie sucks?

Well you've circled back around to the argument I already destroyed. Again: the "staff" consisted of four people. Two of those four (Sparkes, Peters) were in on the con and were going along with it for profit as well as Mrs. Hughes having some kind of dirt on them, most likely related to criminal activity. The other two, Alice and the gatekeeper, were simply normal naïve laypeople who believed what their new employers had told them. They had no reason not to. Julia came across as sort of crazy when she was telling her wild story. These people had been told she had mental problems before they ever met her and had no reason to doubt nice old Mrs. Hughes and her son. I guess they just aren't as intelligent as you.

What was going to be the end game to this farce?

So you don't even know the plot to the movie? Oh that's right you're a troll so your whole thing is just to be disagreeable, not to actually seek an understanding of the movie you're griping about. The "end game to this farce" was that Ralph Hughes would inherit his wife's fortune after they killed Julia. They had to find a woman to substitute for his wife Marion because he had killed her in a fit of rage and tossed her body into the sea. They were going to poison Julia, pass her corpse off as Marion, have a local doctor certify the death, then bury the body and inherit Marion's money (which would pass to her husband after death...I assume you already knew that).

What newspaper was not going to print photographs of Julia Ross when she goes missing? What newspaper has ever not shown photographs of young and pretty women that go missing?

This is 1945, not 2013. I'm not surprised your understanding of the world before you were born is limited. But in 1945 not everybody even had a single picture of themselves. It wasn't as common as today, especially amongst poor people. There were no photo ID's. Julia had no friends and family. She just had Dennis, whom the Hugheses knew nothing about. This was why the Hugheses asked her about her family and friends before they accepted her and why her keeping Dennis a secret turned out to be a plot point in the movie that eventually led to her rescue.

You see, all of this is explained in the movie and what isn't explained is easily figured out by simple reasoning. But that would require you to actually watch the movie with an open mind and not grouse about like the super cool hip "I don't like old movies" rebel that you are.

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"This is 1945, not 2013. I'm not surprised your understanding of the world before you were born is limited. But in 1945 not everybody even had a single picture of themselves. It wasn't as common as today, especially amongst poor people. There were no photo ID's. Julia had no friends and family. She just had Dennis, whom the Hugheses knew nothing about. This was why the Hugheses asked her about her family and friends before they accepted her and why her keeping Dennis a secret turned out to be a plot point in the movie that eventually led to her rescue. "
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Nonsense. This is not 1840's this is the 1940's. Every pretty girl gets her photo taken. Most every school will take class photos. At that bit about no friends, every pretty girl (rich or poor) has 30 guys lined up wanting to be her friend. That's pretty basic and that's why the premise is so darn stupid. They're going to pretend some good looking babe is someone's wife and get away with it? What a load of dung. Oh, and by the way, if by some miracle no photo exists of Julia Ross and no friends can help with a police composite there still is the fact that she tells servants and villagers that she is Julia Ross. So, when her name gets into the papers ... same result ... which means your load of nonsense is just that. You do remember the name of the movie don't you ... it's called MY NAME IS JULIA ROSS ... it really does help if you pay attention to the story. But, that's the whole problem isn't it? You put whatever brain you have on hold and just soak up this bit of piss. How does it taste?

A five-year old could come up with a better alibi even if it were only to hide the body and dummy up. A seven-year old might think that an alibi of a wife taking a walk by the rocky shore (as that's where the house is) never to be seen again might be a decent option. Nobody is dumb enough to hatch the plan they lay and no accomplish is going to risk jail time on a fool plan unless they miss getting raped daily.

And that turd of an ending? Wow. It's not even worth discussion.

But the filmmakers are looking for fools to fill the seats. And you're proof there is no shortage of them. Congrats.

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Yup, the story is preposterous. Same goes for quite a few other thrillers/mysteries published/filmed before 1950 or so. Have you ever read anything written by Agatha Christie? John Dickson Carr? Ellery Queen? They had "preposterous" down to a fine art.

Isolated homes, secret passages, mysterious relatives, black cats....that's what mysteries were about back then. John Dickson Carr wrote quite a few impossible crime stories, like about someone walking into a house and vanishing (nothing supernatural, either).

A pity that today's thrillers are so realistic and dull.

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JimHutton as ElleryQueen: talented hot sexy

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"Yup, the story is preposterous. Same goes for quite a few other thrillers/mysteries published/filmed before 1950 or so. Have you ever read anything written by Agatha Christie? John Dickson Carr? Ellery Queen? They had "preposterous" down to a fine art. []

Isolated homes, secret passages, mysterious relatives, black cats....that's what mysteries were about back then. John Dickson Carr wrote quite a few impossible crime stories, like about someone walking into a house and vanishing (nothing supernatural, either).

A pity that today's thrillers are so realistic and dull. "
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Well ... if you admit to it being preposterous, but liking it anyway, that's fine. It comes across as being akin to an ode to black-velvet art ... but what you like, you like.

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Yup, I'll take this over today's tiresome reality junk any day.

If I want reality, I can turn off my TV set/computer and go outside.

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JimHutton as ElleryQueen: talented hot sexy

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Well, once she knew about the secret passage, she could have entered another part of the house at night, and simply climbed the fence to get away.

It's not like it was electrified.




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It wasn't electrified but it did look to me like it only went to the bedroom of her "mother-in-law"--which was often occupied, especially at night. I would have to watch it again to see if that was how she escaped into the Vicar's car but it is almost for certain that she used it to escape while the others were viewing her "suicide" out the window.

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She wouldn't have gotten very far. Everyone in the house seemed to be watching her round the clock. The mother and son didn't seem to be getting any sleep. Even if she did manage to climb that fence, she had no money of her own to spend on a train ticket or whatever.

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Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen = 

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There's more to film than plot and once you get past the admittedly absurdish basic premise, you've got a taut, suspenseful, stylishly shot gothic noir with strong performances by Foch and Macready. With all that quality distraction around, forgetting about the unlikely set-up wasn't that difficult at all.



"facts are stupid things" Ronald Reagan

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The basic premise is very far-fetched and terrifying, which is what makes it so interesting.

The scary thing is that, far-fetched as it is, it wouldn't be impossible to pull off even in today's world.

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Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen = 

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Not bad - 7.5

"She let me go."
~White Oleander

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