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What was wrong with Danny? (plus questions)


What exactly did he suffer from? First I thought it was polio/infantile paralysis, but then he was moving his legs and posing a crutch on his foot in the after-dinner scene at the cabin. Plus he could swim a little. Did they ever explain that?

And did Thorne quit his job? I know he moved into the boathouse but disappeared from the movie after that.

Was Ellen evil or mentally ill?

I think the father was just like Ellen, because Ruth said Mrs Berent adopted her, not MR. and Mrs. Berent,

Any thoughts, opinions?

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I always assumed polio, the country having just gone through a dozen years or so of FDR's polio. Didn't FDR visit Warm Springs, Georgia, originally in an effort to find a cure or a treatment for his own infantile paralysis? I believe he (FDR) subsequently founded the Institute at Warm Springs as a treatment center for other polio sufferers. All of this would have been well known at the time of the movie's release and implicit (at least to me) in Danny's situation. Also, I had a close childhood friend who had survived a bout of polio and he went on to be a star football player at our high school (with a very slight limp that only a few of us knew the reason for). So I think there were different levels of severity and different levels of rehabilitation. I think Thorne fell victim to that old movie bugaboo 'too much footage' and the resolution to his character's fate ended up on the cutting room floor, as they say. Evil vs. mentally ill poses rather a profound moral question considering this is, after all, a melodrama. In 1945, the inclination to call her 'evil', and take some personal satisfaction from taking the morally superior position over this evil wretch, would be more likely, I think, than it would be today. I don't think the concept of mental health was all that widespread in the mid-forties. I think the popular culture was still seeing largely good/bad, right/wrong, etc. They weren't yet looking for nuanced explanations or underlying causes.

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I quite agree with mryeson - Having Danny go to Warm Springs would have been instantly recognized by the audience as tantamount to saying Danny had polio because of FDR's association with the Springs.

Polio could result in the gamut of outcomes from full recovery to being a quadriplegic dependent on an iron lung(an early respirator)for life.

And I also agree that when the film was made the concepts of good and evil were much more cut and dried than today. If people did bad things they were bad people and God would punish them. Good people were good. The notion that complex psychological influences could shape a personality for good or ill complicated the task of assigning responsibility and blame.

These influences were often recognized, but didn't have much currency to the general public. Audiences liked their moral dilemmas neatly packaged and a moral universe that was dependable and easy to understand. Of course the Noir genre of which this film is an early example, was about to turn all of that upside down.

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An audience in 1945 would have instantly connected Warm Springs to FDR and polio. And remember that the official story told to the public at that time was that FDR had had polio and had some paralysis but had recovered his ability to walk at Warm Springs -- everyone took pains to hide from the public the fact that he couldn't really walk. Danny was just trying to follow the same course that FDR was popularly thought to have followed.

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Ruth said Mrs Berent adopted her because in the book Ellen wouldn't let anyone be close to her father, not even her mother. He was her daddy & couldn't be anyone else's *anything*. I think Ellen was mentally ill, I think most "evil" people are. I don't care if he was found to be sane, Jeffrey Dahmer was still insane, no sane person would do such things.

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"Sanity" is a legal, not medical, term.

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What WASN'T wrong with Danny?!? Golly gee jeepers, I wanted to kick those crutches out from under him myself. What an annoying brat! That said, I think it was polio.

Thorne? Hmmm, I think he hooked up with Ellen's mother.

Ellen evil or mentally ill? No, just too smart for her own good.

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In the book he has infantile....not polio. I think they even say that in the movie...

"The moral of this scene is never trust a guy who plucks his eyebrows."

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infantile paralysis=polio

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I agree he had Polio. He was in the same place FDR was in.

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He was pretty infantile in the movie. AND it looks like he had infantile paralysis as well.

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Danny is NOT "infantile" in the movie. He's a normal, teen kid who has polio.

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Apparently normal teen kids of that era had no clue why honeymoons were important.

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He was a pain in the ass.

I think Ellen was a mentally ill person who did some evil things, not that she saw them as evil.




Get me a bromide! And put some gin in it!

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One thing that is a bit confusing however.

They keep discussing Danny going BACK to school. If his condition was infantile polio, how could he have attended school previously?

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Danny was a kid with an illness but he was nice enough, not bitter as he would have been depicted in movies today. All kids are angst ridden these days with far less reason than Danny.

If he was a pain it was because his brother made him that way. He was thrilled to be with Richard and his new sister in law -- and they seemed thrilled to have him. Why shouldn't he enjoy it?

It wasn't until Ellen started to behave like a shrew that he began to suspect he wasn't wanted ... and then he went swimming ... and that was that.

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They keep discussing Danny going BACK to school. If his condition was infantile polio, how could he have attended school previously?

The old name for polio was "infantile paralysis, not "infantile polio." "Infantile" means "young" and doesn't necessarily apply to infants. Polio can strike at any age but was more prevalent in children, e.g. Mia Farrow, who wasn't an infant and who recovered. Obviously, we're meant to understand that Danny was a school-age child when he contracted polio.

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What was wrong with Danny is that he didn't get put in his place by brother Richard. If Gene Tierney wanted to crawl in bed with me and Danny started pounding on the wall, I'd have drowned him myself.

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