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English Speaking Remake

posted 19 years ago by themistofthisabyss
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I have seen docudrama style movies based on world historical figures and I have seen movies such as "Nicholas and Alexandra", "Rasputin", "Stalin", "Catherine the Great" and the TV movie about "Anastasia" made with English speaking actors and actresses in the parts of those figures and I wonder when a historically accurate remake of Ivan the Terrible will be made in that form. Because I have seen the movie "Eisenstien" and had watched the actor who played the actor play Ivan speak in the film in English instead of Russian in the origanol film. When are we going to see something like that? I was watching parts 1 and 2 and I found out how crazy it is to completlly read those English subtitles.

[–] flasuss 19 years ago

"When are we going to see something like that?"

If God exists, never. But i'm a atheist...

-What would you like to have been?
-Everything you hate

[–] themistofthisabyss 19 years ago

It probably my be ground breaking. I have seen Russian historic film on cable TV as well as other European history films like that such as "Dark Prince The true story of Dracula" Hitler on CBS and other films based on world historic films. This will be the first film based on Ivan and historic facts based on Ivan's real life from documentories about him and it could be put on television either on HBO, CBS, or A&E. It will be the first Ivan film based on the title on my comment in which all the other films on Ivan were Russian speaking.

[–] raktratt 19 years ago

A historically accurate film for HBO viewers?

That would be ground-breaking....

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[–] Sccrream97-1 18 years ago

I think it should be done, because this is more Shakespearian than an actual historical biography. I don't even think that evil woman character existed. Daniel Day-Lewis would be my first choice as Ivan, and hopefully it wouldn't stink like Alexander.

[–] niktemadur 18 years ago

...and hopefully it wouldn't stink like Alexander.

Not with Daniel Day-Lewis, it wouldn't.

When I try to think of someone to direct it, for some reason the only name that pops into my head is Atom Egoyan and I can't get past that, probably on the strength of Ararat. To boot, one of Egoyan's favorite actors, Elias Koteas, would make for an intense character in a remake of Ivan.

[–] glacierslug 16 years ago

Hey, a lot of us think that Alexander was awesome!

Leave it out of this discussion!

[–] ZeroMyHero99 13 years ago

If you're referring to Efronsinia and Vladimir, they did exist. However Efronsinia might not have been evil and Vladimir wasn't special. Ivan did order their executions.

[–] leprechaun2003 16 years ago

Foreign-made pictures about RUSSIAN History can't be historically accurate by definition, because if they make it accurate, you guys won't understand anything (no offense here) - Russian History is too complicated, and thus producers will try to ADAPT it for a foreign viewer (I don't know...add stereotypes to identify Russia and Russians not to confuse foreigners - vodka, caviar, bears on the streets - and this will spoil everything). The best thing they could do is to dub our pictures into English.

I advise you to read subtitles - it's more than worth it!

[–] Bluehawk2008 16 years ago

Although your comments about Russian history being too complicated for our oafish Western European brains to handle are out of line, I agree about the subtitles.

Why would you ever want to see a film remade in English or even dubbed?

[–] kelliotes-373-791890 8 years ago

I've thought for a long time that someone should make Part Three. Now that you mention it, I'd even more like to see the entire trilogy made from the original screenplay.

The film is like grand opera, and would need just the right director.

Who could do it?

Maybe we should agitate.

H