Why don't women like it?


I thought this would be well liked by women. But I see from the voting breakdown that it was very poorly rated by women and girls. Of 22 girls under 18, 15 gave it a one. That's amazing!

Anyone have an idea why?

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I know! I am continually amazed at how this (my) demographic can be so oblivious to great films, I mean it is really embarassing. Personally, I think it is one of the greatest films in cinematic history and it deserves a spot on the top 250 instead of films like Pirates of the Caribbean which received an overall 9.3(!) from them.

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That is odd. It's my favorite film, and the last time it showed in Boston, the audience was almost exclusively female, making me consider it, for the first time, a "chick flick." But. I guess I don't think much of the judgment of -18 year-olds, and so it ain't all that surprising. Five stars, from this twenty-six-year-old woman who first saw the film three, four years ago.

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Really? Today's young women don't like this movie?! I have two boys and have long since assumed they wouldn't like it (maybe I'll try it on them some night this summer with the warning that they cannot walk out in the middle and they have to keep all criticisms to themselves). Next time I visit my sister, I'm going to have to try it on my 16-year-old niece. She's liked Masterpiece Theater presentations of "Pride and Prejudice" and "Ivanhoe" (correctly seeing Bois-Guilbert as the romantic hero). I'll have to see what she thinks of "Les Enfants du Paradis."

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Keep in mind that the "men" who voted could be members of households that include women who enjoy the film, but who haven't voted themselves.

For example, my wife has voted for "Amelie" and in so doing represented us both - I having not voted myself for that film. I enjoy it far less than she, but I think it has it's merits.

The opposite mechanics may be at work hundreds of times for this film. A possibility?

"What's this war in the heart of Nature?"

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The author of the BFI filmbook (Jill Forbes) makes a good point, namely that this is a very rare melodrama told from the male point of view. (The only other one that I can think of in film, offhand, is FIELD OF DREAMS, which women are also notorious for being left cold by)

Another reason can be summed up in one word, Nathalie. After all, what is her real crime but to love the hero and believe in his talent when even his own father derides him? The Garance of Pt. 1 is obsessed with personal freedom and would have tired of Baptiste's obsessive romanticism even faster than she grew bored with Frederick's egotism. It is only after she goes away to India and the British Isles that she truly appreciates being loved for herself.

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I don't find that amazing at all and in fact would be amazed if a woman that age could even understand it, since the perspective of the film is actually that of Garance or what she represents and the men trying to understand it

Garance is clearly the center, but also the pinnacle as in Zenith as well as depth: she is to whom all of the leading characters are connected, the only means by which Garance Baptiste and Frederick are related are by the unselfish acts of Baptiste

I do believe that there is a pertinent point regarding the contrast/conflict between Nathalie and Garance (the yin triangle of the sextant) - as it is above so it shall be below? The good woman vs the courtesan - another practicality of life, the woman as mother and wife, one perhaps imposed by materialism as opposed to the airy and spiritual Love as depicted by Baptiste's Love for Garance whom Nathalie describes as leaving a life when it is convenient to Grance to leave and returning as she fancies while Nathalie all the while remains therein living it, not as easy or "simple" as Garance departs and then re-enters and leaves with Baptiste forever wanting

In that sense it may be unique in that it raises the possibility or at least the question of a female Satanic Hero?

Baptiste as the Fool of the Tarot destined to repeat his cycle(s) on the wheel of fortune through the Major Arcana knowing not the world below, Garance representing The High Priestess, Nathalie the Empress, the Count the Emperor

At least providing Frederick who comprehends the simplicity of Love as she and both now with a deeper understanding provided by the fruits of earthly produce with the means he long sought - an understanding of jealousy to play Othello.

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I am female and first saw this film when I was 17, and it is one of the most important films I have ever seen.

There are plenty of people of all ages and both genders who would not understand this film, but there are also plenty who do.

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Ever since I saw this film, 40 years ago, I was stunned by the cast, plot and all the delicacy and poignancy contained within. That there is a disparity between the genders regarding liking the film is a surprise to me. Actually, I would think that it would be less well received by males since it is so romantic and artsy. And that is not to make stereotypes. It will always be one of my top favorite films. Je suis une femme.

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I never realized they didn't. We just watched this in film history tonight. I'm eighteen years old and i LOVED it!! Then again, I like a lot of things that people in my demographic like. But I thought it was great.

Life in a box is better than no life at all. You could lie there and think, at least I'm not dead.

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I was shocked that my sister the one who's account I'm posting with disliked the film (she's the one who rented it!) I loved it. She's 33 I'm 28. I thought the script was moving... I can't imagine it being better... I may learn French just to watch it again! I'm planning on forcing her to give it another go, wish me luck.

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I loved this movie, being a 16 yr old female. but i understand why other people my age n gender wouldnt like it, no happy ending and its far too thought provoking haha.

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