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The Clock - Symbol at end - Agree?


I have seen this movie many times and love it.... LOVE IT... everytime. But this time, I couldn't help but notice at the end some sort of symbolism??? Do you remmeber when they are in the little chappel and she tells him she loves him. She'll love him till she dies, and then someone puts out the candles in the church. I just got a sick feeling he was probably going to die in war. Or do you think we are just supposed to have that sick uneasy feeling that we SHOULD have when a loved one goes to war? Plus were they trying to say that she was probably with child - because they both touched that little boy at the end in the train station?

Anyway,... I love this movie and would love to have a DVD of it.

JC

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I'm not sure about the candles going out as a symbol that Joe would die in war (I'm too much of an optimist for that). I do think it might've been symbolic definitely of the end of the movie, but also of the fact that marriage is not all peachy-keen and fluffy. This was also evidenced in the scene in the diner when she started crying - I felt so bad for her. However, the point you brought up about her being with child, I thought of as well when she and Joe touched the little boy at the station. Which makes the end even more tragic because she might have to raise their child alone if Joe is off at war.

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I really don't think Joe's meant to die in the war. The speech she gives him the morning he leaves completely convinced me that he'd come back. That's why they both smile and laugh when he goes away, instead of the usual tears and protests that so many movies of the time were full of.

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I loved how they leave the outcome unresolved. Since the story took place over several hours, we don't need to know how everything ends years later. I, for one, hope he returns and that they live happily ever after - but, having had family who died in that war, I know there is the possibility of tragedy, as well. One of my favorite films, by the way, and one of Judy's best performances. I just watched my new DVD of it last night.

As for the symbolism, I think the imagery was more to create mood and give an impression of what the characters might be feeling and thinking. Other than that, I wouldn't read anything definitive into it. Minnelli was a brilliant director, but this was MGM in the '40s, after all. ;)

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I know this is late but.....the DVD has been out awhile now! At least at Amazon!

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Actually, that scene reminded me of the Van Johnson, Jane Wyman, movie, "Miracle in the Rain", which ended up quite sad. Anyone see it and know what I mean?

Johnson, died a few days ago after a great career. :(

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I love "Miracle In The Rain" too.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought she might be pregnant at the end. They made kind of a big deal to show that after they were married, children suddenly liked him. I think there was a reason for that.

Mecca

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I thought the same thing about the candles, but I hadn't made the connection with the child.

Something I did keep noticing though was the potted palms that were being moved around in a bunch of the scenes. It made me wonder if Minelli was trying to imply that Joe was being sent to fight in the Pacific (not sure if it was directly stated where he was being sent back to), especially since the palms got more numerous and obtrusive as the film dragged on, like his anxiety was increasing. How the palms got in the way during the marriage scene was very strange.

It's all fun and games 'til someone gets lobotomized!

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The director said in interview that he purposely wanted to leave it ambiguous about whether Joe will make it back or not because a lot of the audience it was intended for was in the same boat. I think perhaps by the time it premiered, the war was over but the feelings were still there.

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It has got nothing to do with the war. It's about time and timing - rushing your decision one moment, waiting years the next. So beautiful - a gem in film making.

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Spot on 


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