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I Think 'The Uninvited' is one of those rare, perfect films


"The Uninvited" isn't a GREAT movie.

I think it's one of those rare perfect movies, though.

The tone, the cinematography, the soundtrack, the mix of coziness and scariness, the plot twists, every casting choice, every performance, the gorgeous house ... it just all comes together beautifully.

There are no slow scenes, no big mistakes, nothing viewers feel needs to be fixed for full enjoyment of the film.

Even though I'm not a horror or ghost movie fan this is one of my all time favs just for how professionally it is all put together.

I think it deserves more recognition.

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Danusha, I agree with everything in your post, with the possible exception of the opening sentence:

"The Uninvited" isn't a GREAT movie.


Just curious...what do you consider a GREAT movie? (I'm not being snarky, btw; I'd genuinely like to know, especially when you go on to call The Uninvited a perfect movie.)

Personally, I love this movie so much that I don't think much about whether the so-called experts consider it "great".

But it definitely deserves more recognition. Of course, it would help if the movie-misers who currently own the film would release it on DVD.



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"Definitely deserves more recognition".

Maybe so. Either way, I´d never heard of it before seeing it today and yet coming here, I find a fairly lively message board, considering it´s an almost 70-year old movie. Doesn´t seem ´that´ forgotten & there are certainly films from the 40´s that have faded from memory more severely & undeservedly than The Uninvited. Which, although very solid & entertaining, is perhaps a bit too "cozy" for its own good (and has a fairly ridiculous Final Confrontation).



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I can't speak for the OP, but think I share their opinion, although I would phrase it differently. My brother and I sometimes play a little game of "Movie or Film." Gone with the Wind for example, is a "film." Back to the Future on the other hand, is a movie. We base our determination of film or movie based on its significance. I wouldn't categorize The Uninvited as a film, but I would say its a great movie.

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I like your movie/film dicotomy because I am guilty of trying to make the same distinction. However, as I age I have a problem. To me, The Uninvited is now film, while, say, the Batman flicks are just movies. Except when Heath Ledger can push it just by being awesome. (And I'll give Brandon Lee a nod for the same.)
Some things that were just 'movies' are now 'film'. I think for the moment though, I will leave the Saw series as just movies :)

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I think it improves on repeated viewings.


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I agree!

So well done. Such a nice, old-fashioned ghost story.

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Yes, I remember you saying that some time ago. It's one of my faves. I think that The Others is a really good one as well.

I was disappointed with a couple of the ones from the early sixties. To me, the early sixties were about silly comedies, not about horror & ghost stories. Although I did like Bunny Lake is Missing.

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The Innocents was very well done, and yet I forgot what it was about two minutes after I saw it. I think it would have been more memorable if they had filmed it in the thirties.

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How does Bunny Lake is Missing qualify as a ghost/haunted house/horror movie? It's nothing of the kind.

This is without question the best ghost story ever filmed -- literate, scary, with an excellent cast, beautiful music and most of all, no cop-out ending. I waited for years for this film to show up on DVD, and now it finally has. A picture you never get tired of. One of my favorites.

Yet all that said, is it as the OP claimed, a "perfect" film? Even granting there is such a thing (which I do not believe), The Uninvited isn't anywhere near "perfect". It has some slow sections, a few contrived or poorly thought-out plot points, and one or two aspects that could have been dispensed with (notably, the "Miss Bird" sequence at the Mary Meredith Retreat).

None of this makes it a bad or even a lesser movie, but perfect? No way. No film ever is.

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Oh, I mentioned Bunny Lake is Missing because it's one of the few thrillers from the sixties which I like. Normally I prefer comedies from the sixties, but this movie is one of the darker ones which I enjoy.

I liked The Innocents, but forgot it right after I saw it. I've given The Haunting a couple of chances and just couldn't get into it. Both movies would have been better and more memorable if they had been filmed in the thirties.

Side note: Merry Christmas to you and yours, hobnob!

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Bunny Lake -- which I think is fairly lousy -- may be a thriller but in the absence of anything supernatural it's apples and oranges here.

I was never much of a fan of The Innocents either. I found it dull, actually, at least uninvolving. I like The Haunting much better but it too kind of leaves me cold (so to speak), as I just can't get into the characters as I can with The Uninvited.

Best wishes to you, too, MEQ!!

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Okay, hobnob.

And speaking of the supernatural, I think that Santa will be leaving me a few lumps of coal in my Christmas stocking this year.

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JimHutton (1934-79) & ElleryQueen

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What? Not even a DVD of The Uninvited?

A Time to Love and a Time to Die? Not out yet, I'm afraid.

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Perhaps I already own a copy.

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So glad to read that another person didn't quite take to The Innocents! I thought I was the only one! I tried so hard to like it- must've started to watch it a dozen times in the last decade and always found myself falling asleep or getting up to do something else.

I also liked The Haunting a bit more (at least I managed it get through it in one sitting) but didn't connect [emotionally] to the characters as much as I had hoped. I've read elsewhere that many people thought it was miscast so perhaps that might be a reason.

I've always felt a little guilty for not loving these two "great classics" and am glad to see that I'm not alone in feeling like they don't live up to their reputations.

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Don't worry, west182, you're certainly not the only one. The Innocents simply isn't interesting or in the least compelling to me, not "bad" but much overrated. I do like The Haunting much better but I think you're right, some of the casting is a bit off. Now in my case, I've never been a fan of Julie Harris, which is a personal reaction I shouldn't hold against the movie, and I probably have to say she's appropriate for the role. Russ Tamblyn doesn't really work for me there. But the main thing about that film is that it takes place in New England but was entirely filmed in the "real" England and looks and feels it; it's not the slightest bit convincingly American, and that doesn't help it.

I know what you mean when you hold a belief about a movie that most people rate highly but you don't particularly like. Other examples for me include The Searchers and Vertigo, both of which I find vastly overrated, especially the latter. I also tend to shy away from "mass" opinions and look to my own views more. But at some point you come to realize that such things are always just a matter of opinion: it's not like there's some grand cosmic "correct" opinion that permits no deviation. We don't have to feel guilty about or defend contrary positions, and as long as you can argue your reasons cogently and intelligently then you have nothing to worry about. (Try saying something critical about Stanley Kubrick if you really want to be ganged up on!)

Besides which, there's a flip side that's not negative: I like boosting movies people overlook or don't think much of and pointing out their qualities. Here too there's something about going against the tide that's satisfying.

Of course, usually films most people think are good really are good, and the ones they think are bad really are bad -- it's not a matter of just being contrary for its own sake. But never worry about standing apart from the crowd...especially about movies!

Luckily, with The Uninvited, we're on the same page as most people -- it's an excellent film!

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Are you speaking of the original "The Haunting" with Julie Harris and Claire Bloom or the remake with Liam Neeson.

To my thinking nothing I've seen to date can be the psychological effect that "The Haunting" has. Mind, I love this film just as well. The main and really the only problem I have with this film is that Ray Milland (38-39) is far too old to be making goo-goo eyes and the barely out of her teens, Gail Russell (18-19).

But Hollywood committed this type of "crime" over and over. Putting barely twenty-somethings with men nearly always 15 to 20 plus years older.

There are also a few parallels of this story with 'Rebecca'.


It's entirely possible that I am missing the point of your message.

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Yes, I was talking about the 1960s version of The Haunting.

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Are you speaking of the original "The Haunting" with Julie Harris and Claire Bloom or the remake with Liam Neeson.

Oh, I don't think any of us here would even think of the dreadful 1999 remake.

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Finally saw it for the first time last night. Great atmosphere and performances, a good sense of humor, and some genuine chills.

After, I watched the special feature 'The Uninvited: A Visual Essay', then immediately put the movie on again! Not at all corny like some films from that era can be.

And as usual for Criterion, the blu-ray looks and sounds amazing

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I go for:

1. The Haunting (1963)

and then:

**The Uninvited
**The Others
**The Innocents


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I like both The Uninvited and The Others.

I've been reading and enjoying some Victorian ghost stories.

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JimHutton (1934-79) & ElleryQueen

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Maybe. I have a collection of ghost stories written by various authors.

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Two stories which I like are:

-one about a woman who makes a big mistake in opening a huge clothes chest containing clothes not for her

-one about a man who promises his fiancee that he'll be at their wedding, dead or alive



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He kept his promise. He showed up to the wedding, with a very glassy look in his eyes.

Another story I love is about an "extra" at a rugby match, who is only seen at times. Some players don't believe he's there, because he was badly injured a couple of hours before the game was to begin, and was being looked after in the hospital.

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I am second to none in my love for this movie, but I will have to say that I wish that the acting at times wasn't quite so faintly wooden. A little more heartfelt readings and enthusiasm from the lead players would have been an improvement. Still, it's a uniquely wonderful film I've always savored

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I would love that movie if it wouldn't be watered down (most likely by Dodie Smith) by these comic reliefs and Milland character's total lack of gravity even when facing ghost. It was OK (7/10) but I'd prefer it much darker and serious, at least The Innocents-esque.

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