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I love Preston Sturges, mainly for The Lady Eve and secondarily for The Miracle of Morgan's Creek. I also saw and enjoyed The Great McGinty and The Sin of Harold Diddlebock when I was a teenager.

I just saw Hail the Conquering Hero on video the other night. Here are a few miscellaneous thoughts – with some questions for any experienced moviegoers who stumble onto this obscure board. Feel free to answer any or all.

Both here and in Morgan's Creek, Eddie Bracken strikes me as an excellent character actor playing a leading part that's slightly too large for him. I'm reaching for a comparison, though, and can't find one. He's neither a leading man playing comedy like Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart, nor a clown in a leading part like Chaplin and Keaton. Who is an apt comparison to Bracken?

What do you think of Bracken's career in general? I thought he was adorable in Too Many Girls and hampered by a very weak script in We're Not Married!. I must have liked him in Oscar, but I haven't seen that since I was a kid.

Ella Raines (the love interest) and Bill Edwards (the other man in her life) are such drips that they seem to belong together more than Raines and Bracken do. Sturges, as writer, crams so much life into both parts that we like Raines and almost like Edwards. But, oh, I wish Betty Hutton and – I don't know; any suggestions?; someone else – had played these parts. Does anyone know if these actors were Sturges's first choices? Was he happy with them?

I have a feeling that portrait of Bracken's father is an in-joke of some kind. Is it a picture of Sturges? Does anyone know?

Near the end, one of the characters – I forget which – asserts that voters choose a politician for "reasonless reasons" (I'm borrowing that phrase from another writer, not Sturges's script) in much the same way a woman falls in love with a man. I can't tell if Sturges is (1) skewering this idea, (2) endorsing this idea, or (3) simply stating something he believes is true. What do you think?

This movie is beautifully designed and shot. I loved the way the camera slowly closes in on Bracken's face – his eyes glowing like light bulbs – as he recites the history of the Marines. The shot is mirrored later when the camera slowly moves in on Jimmy Conlin. (I can't even remember what Conlin was talking about.) There are several long takes. Once or twice Bracken and Raines are walking down the street together in unbroken shots that reminded me of a similar one with Bracken and Hutton in Morgan's Creek. Daytime shots in the town often look as if they were filmed outside in real sunlight. Does anyone know if they were?

All my reference books tout this movie as a satire on hero worship, but it has less of an edge than I expected. The movie is full of sentiment and even ends on a sentimental note. Does anyone know if the finished work was anything less than exactly what Sturges wanted? Did he have to compromise?

The supporting cast is a crack team: I especially liked William Demerest as the sergeant, Raymond Walburn as the mayor, Franklin Pangborn as the committee chairman, Esther Howard as the mayor's wife, Jimmy Conlin as the judge and Elizabeth Patterson as Raines's aunt.

I was disappointed to find this movie was not as sharp or funny as The Lady Eve or The Miracle of Morgan's Creek. Do you disagree? How would you rate this movie among Sturges's work?

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Just saw the film last night (on a "double bill" with THE GREAT MOMENT) and loved it. I'm an enormous Preston Sturges fan; I LOOOVE THE LADY EVE, THE PALM BBEACH STORY, THE MIRACLE OF MORGAN'S CREEK, CHRISTMAS IN JULY, UNFAITHFULLY YOURS and SULLIVAN'S TRAVELS. The only one I've seen that I'm not wild about is THE GREAT MCGINTY; I like it and "respect" it, but I find it harder to get into than the films I've listed above. I personally thought that HAIL THE CONQUERING HERO was a worthy addition to the pantheon, and that THE GREAT MOMENT was an interesting but flawed film that would've probably been 10 times better if the studio hadn't monkeyed with it. (I have the screenplay -- titled TRIUMPH OVER PAIN -- and I'm planning on reading it to try and get a better vision of what Sturges planned to do with the film; but that's a different topic.)

"Both here and in Morgan's Creek, Eddie Bracken strikes me as an excellent character actor playing a leading part that's slightly too large for him. I'm reaching for a comparison, though, and can't find one. He's neither a leading man playing comedy like Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart, nor a clown in a leading part like Chaplin and Keaton."

That's an interesting observation. Certainly, pretty much any other filmmaker besides Sturges wouldn't have had the guts to use Bracken in such a large role; after all, as you said, Bracken isn't exactly "leading man" material. Off the top of my head, I can't really think of another actor in a similar position; I guess PERHAPS Jack Lemmon, who was not conventionally dashing or handsome, but was rather a quirky, goofy, likeable actor who ended up with leading roles.

In regards to Rains and Edwards, I think that the fact that they're a little bit dull is part of the idea; Raines is supposed to represent the ultimate "girl next door" type that every soldier would want to come home to, and Edwards, of course, is supposed to be unlikeable. As much as I love Betty Hutton in THE MIRACLE OF MORGAN'S CREEK, I think she might very well have been too manic for the female lead in HAIL, THE CONQUERING HERO.

In regards to the high quotient of sentiment in HAIL, THE CONQUERING HERO (at least for Sturges' work) I can definatly see where you're coming from. I personally don't believe that's it's Sturges' wittiest work (that would be either THE PALM BEACH STORY or THE LADY EVE), or his most incisive work, or even his funniest film (that would be THE MIRACLE OF THE MORGAN'S CREEK, which is in my opinion quite possibly THE funniest film ever made, at least in terms of sheer laugh quotient), but I think it's arguably his most "heartfelt", if that makes sense. I like to think of it as Frank Capra filtered through Preston Sturges' skewering eye; while it is clearly the most sentimental of Sturges' pictures, it does make some sharp comments about the American public's tendancy to accept things at face value (I believe Walburn even has a line at one point where he says something to the effect of: "There are some things you just have to accept, and one is a hero. You can't ask him for his union membership card.")

As far as Sturges' ouerve (or, at least, what I've seen of it), here's my ranking:

1. THE LADY EVE
2. THE MIRACLE OF MORGAN'S CREEK
3. SULLIVAN'S TRAVELS
4. THE PALM BEACH STORY
5. HAIL, THE CONQUERING HERO
6. UNFAITHFULLY YOURS
7. CHRISTMAS IN JULY
8. THE GREAT MCGINTY
9. THE GREAT MOMENT (although, again, I think if the studio hadn't done such a butcher job on it, it would have been a better film)

I still have yet to see THE SIN OF HAROLD DIDDLEBOCK and THE BEAUTIFUL BLONDE FROM BASHFUL BEND.

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I'm only going to respond to your last question "How would you rate this movie among Sturges's work?"

Head and shoulders about anything else. I love Miracle of Morgan's Creek and Sullivan's Travels, but I think that Hail the Conquering Hero is his greatest mix of comedy and drama, sentiment and pathos. It's one of my top ten films and I like it more each time I see it.

I'm thrilled that it finally came out on DVD last year!




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johandav ~ but I think that Hail the Conquering Hero is his greatest mix of comedy and drama, sentiment and pathos. It's one of my top ten films and I like it more each time I see it.

Well said! My sentiments, exactly.

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I would rank "Sullivan's Travels" as his masterpiece, "The Lady Eve" as a close second, and "Hail the Conquering Hero" third.

To me, although all of his other films have enjoyable moments and admirable qualities, none of them have the total freshness, vitality, or outright "screwball" quality of these three. Some of the others seem to be rooted in their time period, and do not "translate" well to our time, while others come off as somewhat creaky or dated, their premises overshadowed or outdistanced by societal changes or other movies that occurred in the intervening 70 years.

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by J. Spurlin » Fri Sep 10 2004 02:04:35 Both here and in Morgan's Creek, Eddie Bracken strikes me as an excellent character actor playing a leading part that's slightly too large for him. I'm reaching for a comparison, though, and can't find one. He's neither a leading man playing comedy like Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart, nor a clown in a leading part like Chaplin and Keaton. Who is an apt comparison to Bracken?
I can't give any sound reasoning for my opinion but I always thought of "Eddie" as a pre-cursor to the likes of Chevey Chase. (Bracken appears in National Lampoon's Vacation)

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Eddie Bracken strikes me as an excellent character actor playing a leading part that's slightly too large for him
Perfect for the part!

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As you posted this 14 years ago, on a board that no longer exists, I doubt you will see this response, but allow me to hail back at you. I'd love to learn how your opinion of this film, and Sturges' others, have evolved over the years.

As for me, Christmas in July was the first film of his I watched, and I still consider the scene where Jimmy picks up his check from Dr. Maxford to be the funniest single scene Sturges ever wrote, Hail the Conquering Hero is my second favorite of his films, and maybe more re-watchable than The Lady Eve, my overall favorite.

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Stumbled upon this old thread and thought I'd chime in with my ranking of Sturges' films. In all honesty, I feel there is but a hair's breadth of difference between any of the top 8 films, and The Miracle of Morgan's Creek is almost as good as The Lady Eve. Sturges had an unprecedented streak of masterpieces, all in a very short period of time. He made 7 nearly perfect films between 1940 and 1944. Seven in five years! Most directors don't make 7 great films in their career.

1. The Lady Eve
2. Hail the Conquering Hero
3. Sullivan's Travels
4. Christmas in July
5. The Great McGinty
6. The Sin of Harold Diddlebock
7. The Palm Beach Story
8. The Miracle of Morgan's Creek
9. Unfaithfully Yours
10. The Great Moment

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