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Thumbs Down for Curse of the Crap People


Will you like this film? - Not if you watch it. And I say this as one who considers the original CAT PEOPLE a true gem of a picture. Very classy, subtle, and mysterious. All elements missing from this clunker.

This so-called "sequel" is the difference between a horror film and a horrible film, and it suffers from far too many problems.

1. It mixes myths. First, with the title, back story and cat in the tree, we have the Cat People myth. Then, for no good reason, the writer brings in the Legend of Sleepy Hollow. And for all the confusion, neither one pays off.

2. It uses the same actors, playing the same characters as the little girl's mother and father, but then brings back the "original cat woman", the weird "sister" from the restaurant, who is NOT the same character at all. Worse yet, we don't find this out until this dreadful movie is nearly over - creating more confusion. Why cast her at all?

3. I don't know what to make of Simone Simon's performance. I've seen her called an angel, but mainly she's an outcast from a bad children's movie, Snow White gown and all. The music leads us to believe that she's somehow ominous - and yet somehow enchanting. Which is it? Neither.

5. The acting throughout, is uniformly terrible. But then so is the writing. And directing (not Tourneur). The old woman actress is more like Carol Burnett in NOISES OFF than a convincing mad woman.

6. And for bad lines, this one has a doozy that I can only paraphrase: Mom is upset that with Dad punishing their little girl, who's never been punished before, but before she can stop him, the Wise Teacher warns her not to interfere, a child's first spanking is too important an event.

Apologists for this movie might think of it as the predecessor to PAN'S LABYRINTH, and there might be a legitimate argument for that. The difference though, is that PAN'S LABYRINTH comes from real talent, a coherent storyline, and excellent production. CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLE (bad title) barely gets a one out of three.

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Will you like this film? - Not if you watch it.


Well, I've been fortunate enough to see this film three times on the big screen. And I thoroughly enjoyed it each time.

This film is a "sequel" in name only. If you go into this with a clear mind, (and without any lingering expectations from Cat People ) I think you'd fare much better in understanding what this film has to offer. Saying that someone "won't like the film if they watch it" is an overstatement if ever there was. This movie might well mean a great deal to someone who is alone and friendless: Children do not have a monopoly on fear and loneliness, alas.

At any rate, I'm truly sorry you didn't like the film. I realize that your opinion is a valid one, (all opinions are) but I also can't help but feel you watched the film through the eyes of an adult rather than those of a child.

And that being the case, you couldn't help but emerge from the encounter somewhat the worse for wear.


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Movie girl: Can't help interjecting an opinion here: I watched the movie again
after first re-watching The Cat People. Yes, the first film was stylish and
mysterious. The cast was well-chosen and everyone was quite interesting.

When we see Curse of the Cat People, it is quite different. My grown daughter of
24 had watched it with me a couple of years ago and was heard to recently remark that the film is good but doesn't make sense. She saw me watching it last night and asked me questions it was hard to answer.

Yes, Amy can't be Irena's daughter, as Irena had perished in the encounter with the car. When Irena is running away (after killing the psychiatrist, Dr. Judd) it appears that she turned into the panther (she had liberated from the zoo ). Irena was found dead as a woman after the car accident. One may well wonder where the panther went after killing Dr. Judd???

The first movie was very interesting in a way, but the second one is intriguing as well.. AS is often in real life, different milestones are often interjected with various unusual incidents. Even if we weren't considering the story through the eyes of a child, we find that there are various things occurring almost concurrently that are hard to explain.

I enjoyed seeing, for example, some of the people from the first film. In addition to Kent Smith and Jane Randolph, we also have the "ghost" of Irena who can only be seen in Amy's imagination. So we wonder if AMy really knows what she looked like from an old picture, or has she seen her ghost? Did AMy need her so badly that she dreamed her up as her "friend"? Her father is furious with her
daydreams, but Amy can only tell "the truth of what she sees".

Then too, we have a difficult decision to make about credibility of adults who cannot accept anything that is untoward; unusual crossing their path. Even those that are tolerant like Amy's teacher or her mother do not believe her story. This is quite understandable as a rule. It would seem that Amy is interested in fairy stories because she is lonely.

I was quite taken with Julia Dean as Mrs. Farren. She was quite intriguing as
a former star who is now a recluse. We have her befriending AMy and then we
see Elizabeth Russell again who was the mysterious woman in the original film.

In this film she does claim to be Mrs. Farren's daughter, Barbara. THe character of MRs. Farren does not appear to be insane, but had possibly suppressed a shocking incident from her past. Could it be that she cannot accept the grown-up Barbara as her daughter, as she had had a shock years ago when her daughter nearly died in an accident or from a severe illness? Even now she cannot accept her live daughter? When Barbara says she is her daughter, she says she is only the woman who takes care of her.

So where are the Cat People of note that are referred to in the film? Yes, we see
Irena as Amy had, but no others can. Barbara is supposed to be a caretaker at the Farren home. (Are we to believe that Amy is possessed because her father was once married to Irena of the Cat People?

So this is all going on during the holiday season with the mummers in costume going door to door... WE have Sir Lancelot who keeps house and watches Amy when he can. He is an interesting and sympathetic character who is genuinely worried when he discovers Amy had gone alone to the Farren home. He did well to worry, as Amy may have been in danger - from Barbara.

Amy nearly freezes to death, but is saved when Mrs. Farren opens her door to her
incessant knocking. She tries to protect the girl from Barbara by bringing her upstairs, but the jealous woman is enraged. When her mother suddenly dies of a heart attack in her attempt to shield Amy, she savagely reaches out to choke her.
When Amy is restored to her family, her father pretends to believe her that she sees Irena and says he has seen her too.

The apparition is gone and we are to think that it is the ultimate end of the story - Irena was her friend and appeared when Amy needed her.

When I was Amy's age my mother (who was a long-time valuable elementary school-teacher would not take my word if I mentioned something unusual happened. Possibly this was because I was the youngest. I have a sister who is three years older. I could not tell her when a strange thing happened to me, as she would have scoffed at me for making it up too. Dad remained neutral.

About a year before It was around Christmas time. I was the first one to go to bed and was sleeping. Suddenly around midnight I awoke and saw something very unusual. At the time I thought I was seeing a miracle and was transfixed to my bed. I could not move. I would have tried to run and tell my parents, but could not. Glancing toward the window I saw what must have been a Nativity Scene reflected on the shade. Every detail was complete, everything was perfect. At the time I had never seen one before and did not know what they were. But I could identify Mary and Joseph kneeling and the Christ Child!). In the morning it was gone (of course) and I considered mentioning "my miracle" at breakfast. I
could not. I watched for a reappearance of my "vision" for a night or two and gave it up. Was it a reflection from another apartment house across the way? I will never know. After that we moved away and the secret prevailed.

MAny years later - in fact just recently my sister was visiting from out of state and I spoke of the incident. She said it might have been the same place where she had seen a "hand of God" on the window! She had not mentioned her experience either. This gives an idea of adult incredibility. Our mother was very wise and spoke to her school-chilren kindly. But we could not step out of the circle of
"reality" or would have found ourselves sadly treated. This held true for Amy.

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Apart from having two directors involved (which is a bad sign for any film), I think the main problem is that the studio tagged this as a sequel to Cat People when really is has very little to do with it. It's not horror, it's more of an enchanting fantasy (though it could pass as an effective ghost story for children). It would have been far better for it to stand alone and have no links to Cat People at all, and then people wouldn't watch it with any expectations. Blame the studio for this, not the creative talent involved.

Personally, I loved it. I think it is moody and atmospheric, but enchanting and quite unusual for its time. It has lovely production values (the garden scenes and the snow are nicely done).

I also often wondered if Donnie Darko was partly inspired by this. If you think about it, there are lots of similarities...and not just the obvious one about a youngster being able to see something nobody else can.

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I've grown to like this movie over time and I think going in with expectations that it's not as good as The Cat People is one reason why. Knowing now that it isn't a sequel to a horror movie, but rather a children's fantasy movie involving some of the same characters I see the movie in a different light.

My wife, who saw this first, loved it. She had no expectations from it's predecessor because she hadn't seen it yet.

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My favorite Lewton, by far, and I love the others. There's nothing wrong with this film, the atmosphere and acting is great.

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A beautiful story of childhood and loneliness. I love this movie.





"It's as red as The Daily Worker and just as sore."

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you watched it expecting a sequel. it's not. it is a beautiful, melancholy film about a very lonely little girl. it's more a fairytale than anything else.

sad that you can't see just how lovely a film it is. one of my favorite movies ever.

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I liked this movie too and I saw the original Cat People. I loved the little girl in the movie, Ann Carter. She was a darling child in other films also. I thought it interesting that the same woman who looked like a cat was in the original movie, but that could be possible. Only thing I remember is that she asked Simone if she was a sister. She could still be the old lady's daughter. The old lady was suffering from Alzheimer's obviously so I felt bad for her daughter who was bitter over her mother's condition. There really was no link to the original movie except for the original stars, but I still liked it. I was a lonely child so I understood Amy's world.

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Is is so difficult to get over the fact that the title of the movie was a cheap-and-easy choice by the studio? The film itself is quite good - and that from someone who isn't charmed by movies that involve "precocious" children. It's closer to "The Turn of the Screw" than someone's preconceptions about a movie by Val Lewton. OK, the beginning is a bit of a bait-and-switch but that's not what is memorable about the whole production.

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The title sounds misleading. But really it is not. Dad thinsk Amy might be cursed by whatever was wrong with Irena. Plus he sstill lives with the curse of memories of Irena. The curse blankets the whole Reed family because they will not let Irena go.

The OP was complaining about the Headless Horsemen. I think the reason the old lady starts telling the story of the Headless Horseman is because they live in Terrytown, and Sleepy Hallow is right next to Terrytown. Heck she should of known the story already. Everybody in downstate NY knows that story. Washington Irving is a local. Plus it was a chance to show something about the old lady.

I never got the relationship between the mother and the daughter. I have to believe the mother was coming down with dementia and the daughter did know how to deal with it.

What bothered me the most about the film is not the fathers treatment of Amy he was overly sensitive about Irena and the directors hero's always have flaws like most of us do. What bothered me is the fighting about Amy in front of Amy. Parents should not be fighting about anything in front of their kids Plus it under minds the relationship between one of the parents


Well I have to be honest the reason I really love this movie is because Sir Lancelot( his real name is Lancelot) is in it. He was in a few movies and I try to catch them all. He just died a few years back at the young old age of 99. I am a a Jamaican and he was very instrumental in getting Calypso music out to the public. He was very big in the NY area. Harry Belafonte, Leslie Kong, Peter Tosh and Byron Lee and Desmond Dekker site him as a big influence. Even though he comes from Trinidad he is mostly identified as being a Jamaican. People should look into buying one of his Cds.

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He's much, much better in I Walked with a Zombie.

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Now, that was a good movie. This one just annoyed me. That little kid got on my every nerve until I had to turn it off half-way through.

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The OP is a bit of a cynist it seems. This was originally going to be titled "Amy & Her Friend" and it is a sweet ghost story most children may enjoy or anyone who has a young child.

It has pretty much nothing to do with The Cat People storyline and is more of a supernatural thriller because you never know what the ghost will do at the climax in the house. Will she make the girl join her in death or save her?

The acting is standard fare nothing outstanding by any means except the little girl who steals the show. If you like supernatural films like i do this is a rare treat it's no horror film and not quite a thriller by today's standards but a good afternoon or late night flick.

Cheers.

"Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and I can do all of them."

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Oh, do SHUT UP.

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What struck me about this movie is the vulnerability of the child. It seems that no one can understand her. Harm threatens her from all sides, even from her parents. She escapes to a fantasy world in order to be safe. Childhood can be very frightening for those in an unstable environment or, in this case, those that have problems socialising. This film captures in a realistic way the fear that a young child feels. It is too bad about the title. Many that chose to see it were probably expecting a horror movie and were disappointed and many that would have appreciated its qualities probably refused to watch it because of the title!

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