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what a silly title! what the hell does it mean??



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The only thing silly here is this dolt who doesn't understand the title. Another know nothing of world history!

Nothing exists more beautifully than nothing.

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Another know nothing of manners. The person asked a simple question. Provide some value instead of mocking in an attempt to feel superior.

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Did you find out what it meant?

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I do know what it means and that's enough for me.

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Me too.

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A man is on a Rhine River cruise and Germany goes on Daylight Saving and he has to set his watch ahead. It is so frustrating that he throws his watch overboard and onto the Rhine?

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I think it would be into the Rhine unless it were frozen....

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think,,lead character was fighting fascism the rhine is a rhine is a river near communists countrys so i guess they r looking for invaders,,,,,coming by water

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No, the Rhine is not and never was a river near Communist countries, and the title has nothing whatsoever to do with Communism. The river is on the west side of Germany. Part of it runs along the border with France, the rest inside Germany, but it's commonly thought of as the great natural barrier between the west and Germany.

No one was looking for invaders coming "by water". The point was to stand guard against the advent of Nazism from Germany -- by invading armies of course, but more generally the title means that free peoples have to keep a watch over the ambitions of and threats from Nazi Germany, ideological as well as military.

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Isn't it derived from a German song, "Wacht am Rhine"?

"I don't use a pen: I write with a goose quill dipped in venom!"---W. Lydecker

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Maybe, but I think the context re the war is the underlying reason for the title.

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SORRY I'M SO LATE IN THIS COMMENT,I JUST SAW THE MOVIE.
Harold Robins wrote:
"Isn't it derived from the German song, "Wacht am
Rhine"

Smart man, sir. You answered the question with no fanfare & without the nonsense.
I think the song is "die Wacht am Rhein", which translates from German to "Watch on the Rhine". Which is the NAME of the movie.

Kurt even sings a very similar song in the movie. I would guess copyright laws concerning German songs in 1943 prevented that Very Popular resistance song from being used.

It's really a shame the title was used, as many folks miss a very engaging and thoughtful movie as they surf past its title on TCM.


But we in it shall be remembered;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers

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Wacht am Rhein

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A German told me the Rhine was the border between BRD and DDR but I say no way.

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You're correct. The Rhine forms a portion of the border between Germany and France, north of Switzerland. The border then jags west to form the northern border of France while the river continues through Germany into the Netherlands, where it's called the Rijn. The area in Germany between the northern Rhine and the western borders with France, Belgium, Luxembourg and the southern Netherlands is of course the Rhineland, which was a key area in the 1930s when Germany remilitarized it in violation of the Treaty of Versailles, giving the Nazis a forward area from which to attack the West in 1940.

There was no river border between the old East and West Germanys, and certainly not the Rhine, which is far to the West and was well within West Germany.

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This dude told me East Germans would swim across the Rhine to freedom in the west.
And earlier he was complaining that Americans did not know geography.

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Maybe after they escaped into West Germany the East Germans kept running until they hit the Rhine, dove in, swam across, got out and kept going to Belgium, by which time they'd be dry.

Unfortunately most Americans don't know geography (and I'm an American saying that) but the problem isn't confined to us. Besides, all anyone has to do is look at an Atlas. Assuming they know what that is.

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He probably ment the Elbe. In "The Defector" with Montgommery Clift and Roddy McDowell, Montgommery Clift takes a boat from Magdeburg and goes (I am assuming) up the Elbe to the border.

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Probably, although the Elbe mostly ran through East Germany. Only a very short portion of it in the north formed part of the border between the two Germanys before the river continued on into West Germany. I think many people did use the river to try to get across but the border areas were heavily armed.

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This one was mined, but the DDR guard was friends with the fugitive so he warned him to jump off the boat.

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I'm assuming there is some confusion. Perhaps the river in question is the Spree in Berlin, as the BRD/GDR border did run through Berlin.

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Yes, the title is pretty obscure.

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You don't know what the title means yet you call it 'silly' anyway. That sounds silly to me.

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Being a World War Two buff I knew what it meant right away,lol

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I figured it out by reading the prolog.

"...There were some men... who knew this mighty tragedy was on the way...."

How did they know? I figured it's because they kept a "Watch on the Rhine".

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So, right you are. Let's hope nothing like this happens again.

"Beware of the waiting room."

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Intelligence and ignorance are not the same, and the truly intelligent have no need to put down others.

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