the ending....


Does anyone think the ending of this film just SUCKED? I mean, it was going great...strong characters, okay acting, wonderful historic setting, some good action scenes, and the storyline seemed pretty cool...but then it just went nowhere. It seemed like the writers didn't have any good ideas on how to end it, so they said "Let's make John die and Lt. Davidson go crazy. The end." And the ending shot was SO CHEESY! The rest of the film was quite satisfying, but the ending just made me mad.

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I'm sure people would agree with you if they'd seen this!! I feel your pain. The ending was SO disappointing. I guess it was to help fit in to the whole flash-back thingy ma bobber, which I suppose was kind of unneccessary. Hey, respond to my post, PLEASE!!!
Anywho...yes. To me, this movie would have been better as a whole without Claudette Colbert in it. I mean, her role was important, of course, but I'd have preferred seeing like...Myrna Loy or someone (i think colbert was too old for the part) neway, au revoir!

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Yes, although I deeply respect Colbert, she just didn't seem to fulfill the character. Myrna Loy might have done better. Honestly, I think Barbara Stanwyck might have been actually been able to pull off Lt. Davidson's character. She can play a tough broad with a sensual side.
Anyways. During the entire film I was thinking it would go on my list of top 20 favorite movies, but then they ended it like that and I could only roll my eyes and sigh.

By the way, I looked at your message profile and it looks like we have something else in common (besides love of old movies)- we both like Sutton Foster and Wicked!

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COOLNESS!! barbara stanwyck might've been cool, only my interest in her work went down slightly after i saw her in a blonde wig in "double indemnity"... although i guess you shouldn't judge people by seeing them in one certain movie (e.g. if this was the only claudette colbert movie i'd ever seen, i don't think I'd like her as much as I do!!) XD

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I wouldn't call it cheesy. I've seen many worse. And I'm sure it got people to buy war bonds.

I am almost never satisfied with any ending, in books and movies. Yet this one is not bad. The whole film still ranks on my Top 3 war movies list, others being Red Dawn, aand They Were Expendable. And two of the three have to do with Bataan and Corregidor, and all being American defeats. Hm, I didn't think of that till I typed this post out. Interesting...

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I must be obtuse -- I thought it was open ended -- we don't know if in fact that John died. His crew had not been heard from, but that is intentionally vague. And after the letter had been read Lt. Davidson "went sane."

Is this not correct?

Mind you, I disliked the ending also -- it rang a lower melodramatic tone than the rest of the movie.

I watched it primarily to see George Reeves. I enjoyed his performance immensely. I chuckled at the earlier reference to the Superman character -- probably from the radio serial -- maybe the comics.

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I didn't get the impression that he died. He hadn't been heard from and she got a letter from him, and that made her come back to life. She was catatonic because she thought he was dead.

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Granted, the film did just end without many conclusions, and I did find it lacking until I realized that the film was made in 1943. The war was in full swing. Wives were catatonic not hearing from their husbands. They obviously couldn't end the picture with a war victory because it didn't happen yet. So, maybe it was sending a message that although things looked hopeless, there was still hope.

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Interesting point.

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I agree, it's an interesting point. However, it's also worth comparing the ending of this film with another Claudette Colbert film a year later (1944) - made while the war was still raging - "Since You Went Away." There Claudette's character has been kept waiting in uncertainty during the whole film to hear from her husband, who is overseas in the army, and at one point she hears that he has been reported missing in action. But in the last scene she learns that he is alive and well, and the final shot has her repeating his name "Tim", over and over - very similar to the last shot in "So Proudly We Hail." The latter film would have ended much more strongly if they had done the same thing - had her learn that John was alive and was writing to her that they would meet later at their farm. The uncertainty involved as to whether he is alive or dead is totally unncessary. It was a bad stumble on the part of the screenwriter(s), and sadly, the ending they chose in my opinion mars the film considerably. And btw, there are two references in the film to Superman - later, during a bombardment, one of the women is heard to say, "Maybe Superman IS here!" - rather ironic when you think of it. One last point, although I know it's somewhat off-topic. By watching this film you can see what a truly drop-dead gorgeous woman Barbara Britton was. Lord, those piercing blue eyes! What a lucky man her psychiatrist was, to have found her in his waiting room! At least he had the good sense to marry her. I recently saw her in "Champagne For Caesar," and was reminded once again what a stunner she was. It's a pity she didn't get better film parts; at least she got to star on TV with Richard Denning in "Mr. and Mrs. North," a series still very fondly remembered by baby boomers.

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It is interesting you mentioning your opinion that the movie should have ended with her meeting John at the farm... Lux Radio Theater, after the movie had come out, did a radio dramatization of SPWH using the main stars of the movie as voice actors, anyway... in this version they ended it with the guy reading her the letter but in it John talks about the farm, and Davy's last words are a promise to go to the farm and wait for John & that she knew somehow he was alive and would come to her when the war was over or whatever. I thought ending it this way was a good compromise , as one viewer said having Davy and John get together in the end would have not resonated as much with the audience in those times when the war was still going on and women couldn't be sure of their loved ones coming back... yet the promise that she had hope he was still alive was better than the 'what the heck?' way the movie ended.

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Since she looked up into the sky, I assumed he and Chee passed away.

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The ending disappointed me also. While I didn't expect her to jump up, grab a bayonnet and vow to kill the Japanese, I expected a more hopeful ending. Everything was left hanging, including the fates of the nurses they didn't get evacuated in time.

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No one knew the fate of the nurses at that time. It wasn't until later that everyone found they were interred at Santo Tomas with the civilian detainees Army nurses, and Los BaƱos for the Navy nurses.

As to Colbert's age, just as an FYI, the commander of the nurses - Captain Maude C. Davison - was 57 years old.

As for John, letting her know he was still alive was a moot point: in the Second World War, everyone was "in for the duration," and had he been found alive, had he not died on the Bataan Death March and somehow escaped and made it to an American base, he would simply have been reassigned to another combat unit. He might have survived the Philippines only to die on some other Pacific Island. Or, he would have been a guerrilla fighter in the hills of the Philippines. In any case,his prospects weren't great.

To me it was a very hopeful ending- Colbert's character knew that John had survived up to the time of the writing of the letter, and that gave her the hope to continue, the same as many other American wives, sweethearts, and parents.

..Joe

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I, too, thought the ending was rather weak (and unintentionally funny: Claudette Colbert all glammed-up in a freeze frame, looking exactly like a Paramount publicity still for the film!), especially because the rest of the film was, by and large, excellent. It was uncharacteristically frank for it's time. I'm guessing the Hays Code must have loosened up a bit during the war years.

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UM, STUPID A**, YOU NEED TO TYPE "SPOILER" PLEASE. I JUST GOT THIS FINE PRINT FROM COSTCO TODAY, EITHER $7 OR $9, AND NO COMPLAINTS WHETHER THIS FILM IS GOOD OR OK. IT COULD NOT BE BAD WITH THE STAR POWER ATTACHED AND CONSIDERING YEAR MADE. DON'T COMPLAIN IF YOU CAN GET A GOOD PRINT OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR LESS THAN TEN DOLLARS. PERIOD.

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With a title like "the ending" there's no need for a spoiler warning. A half-wit could have figured out that the thread was about the ending of the movie.

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