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Don't read about film before watching


I was about 40 minutes into this flick when I decided to read the blurb on the box that discusses what the film is about. It told me far more than I needed to know about the film and gave away the essential surprise about the movie. I recommend that this film be watched before reading anything about the plot.

Knowing what should essentially have been a surprise will take away much of the enjoyment in the flick. And there is far more enjoyment in watching the film unfold, then you will feel when the movie is done.

The best thing about this film is the fact that it is so unusual.

Just don't expect all that much in the way of logic.

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although i really liked the film, reading about it gave away most of the plot twists in the story, it would have been nice to watch it without knowing too much of the story.

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Do people really just watch pictures for the story?

The Seventh Victim can't be understood at one viewing. Probably not even ten will exhaust its perverse delights. If it is a who-done-it, it's a bad one. What is all that Trademark stuff about? It looks like a detective film at that point but it is a clue that just leaves us hanging. When you have worked out why it is there, then you can worry about knowing too much!

In fact TSV is probably the weirdest and darkest thing to come out of the studio system. The longer you look at it, the stranger it gets. Like an opera, you may enjoy it all the more if you've taken on board the plot outline before running the picture.

It is, like many pictures of the time, highly suggestive and condensed. The sexual perversity is codified but even the situation of the heroine at the end is irregular to say the least.

The ending is sheer poetry and simply jaw-dropping. I can't think of anything to match it.

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As Val Lewton said, the message of the film is "Death is good!"

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I agree. I have no idea how this film ever made it past the Production Code office. It's hard to really put it in terms of Pre Code vs. Post Code though, since there isn't much in the way of racy material in The Seventh Victim. It's mainly the ending that truly weirded me out when I first saw it. The sort of ending that stays with you forever.

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Just finished watching the TCM documentary. This movie has one of the most depressing endings I've ever seen.
Scorsese did an excellent job producing and narrating the film. One of the surprises is an interview with Ann Carter who played Amy in CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLE.

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My guess, cabbageboy316, is that the Production Code office was too busy to notice the subtleties. The studios were turning product out frantically during the war. B movies, most made to run a week or so then disappear forever, didn't get the scrutiny that a big budget film for the whole family would get. There is no explicit violence or sex, so much of it probably went right over the censors' heads.

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Not having read anything in advance, about until the midway point I thought this was going to be just a run-of-the-mill B-Noir and that it would turn out Jacqueline was held captive because of some sort of money or love related plot point. But it turned out to be something quite different and unexpected. Very few (if any at all) movies at the time dared to take such a turn in such a direction almost halfway through. This became popular many years later, especially in the 90s. For instance Tarantino wrote the first third of Dusk Till Dawn as a typical dark psychological thriller and then turned it into a monster movie out of the blue half an hour in. The 7th Victim also makes me think of Polansky's The 9th Gate, not only because of the number in the title, but also because in that movie we also found out late on that the antagonists were occultists, although there it did turn out there was actual black magic or whatever it was.
Anyway, this movie also surprised me with the scene in the hallway with the blinking lights that posters above already mentioned. The blinking light was such a simple effect, yet very effective and it seems nobody had thought of it until this movie came along. It was a very unuasual, surrealistic and innovative scene.
Another scene that stood out for me was the one at the party, after the big reveal that Jacqueline had been seeing the doctor, where just as the poet started towards Kim Hunter and took her by the hand, Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata started playing and everybody seemed to float and speak as if they were performing an opera or a ballet. That scene was pure poetry!

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Wonderful post, j-b-w-l. The Seventh Victim is in my pantheon of greatest movies ever (in the top 10), and it is so rich and filled with themes and subtexts that each viewing brings new insights and pleasures. At the very least, there's never been another film that so aptly conveys a sense of the loneliness of urban life and the melancholy that leads to trying to make human connections. Erford Gage's sad failed poet may be my favorite character in any movie ever.

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although i really liked the film, reading about it gave away most of the plot twists in the story, it would have been nice to watch it without knowing too much of the story.


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I often don't like to know too much in advance when I see a movie or read a book, just enough to get my attention and interest.

But there can be a drawback to this, especially when advised to see something without any prior knowledge: At a Christmas dinner someone highly recommended BLACK SWAN and advised seeing it with no foreknowledge at all, and as it happens, this is exactly what I did some weeks later. However, the 'advice' built up such expectations that I sat through the film anticipating twists and turns that never happened, looking for significances that weren't really there. Consequently, while I was actually impressed with the film the day I saw it, my opinion has been considerably (and unfavorably) revised in the time since I saw the film.

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