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Cigarettes No, Cigars Yes?


I've read several things stating that a scene with Goofy smoking a cigarette has been edited from the DVD release of Saludos Amigos.

Yet, the Parrot, Joe Carioca, is allowed to keep his cigar?? Donald Duck lights Joe's Cigar with his breath when Joe gives him a beverage. Joe puffs away while it's being lit.

So what's the difference? If Disney feels they need to "protect" kids from smoking, why are only cigarettes edited out? In terms of tobacco content, Cigars are worse than Cigarettes. In the end, neither is good for you.

Personally, I don't feel that any Smoking Scenes should be edited from the films. One reason is to protect the integrity of the original films, the other is that I don't feel that kids will be driven to smoke just because Goofy's doing it. Kids don't smoke because they see a cartoon character doing it, they smoke because they see Mom, Dad and other adults doing it. That's the Real Truth of the matter.

If they're worried about the smoking in the cartoons, just put a disclaimer in front of the film like "We at Disney don't advocate smoking" or something like that. Plus, just teach the kids that Cartoon Characters ( or "Toons") can smoke without it hurting them, just like a Toon can get hit on the head with an anvil and live. Toons can do anything, Humans have limits. Humans can get Cancer from Smoking, Toons can't. It's a simple lesson and one that I think kids understand completely.

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It's probably because Goofy is a leading Disney character, still used in todays cartoons. They don't want to show Goofy smoking because he can still be a "role model" for kids.

Which is very strange, because Donald Duck keeps puffing away. Just last year I was present at the dutch dubbing of a short where Donald keeps smoking while a Donald Devil keeps shouting at him "You smoke like a pansy!"

I agree with you that they shouldn't edit the smoking out of films. It's just made in a time when smoking was okay.
But Disney, wanting to keep their films timeless, keeps editing little pieces of film, time after time, until there is nothing left of the original classics.
What'll we have next? Cruella DeVil losing her cigarette? Pinocchio getting sick of candy instead of a cigar?

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And yet Goofy was/is the one character who is featured in a short which is about nothing but tobacco and its addictive nature:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5rIlGRKOEI&feature=related

"Don't call me 'honey', mac."
"Don't call me 'mac'... HONEY!"

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You can get the unedited version of the film as an extra on the DVD of Walt and El Grupo.

Phil

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