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This is kind of the western version of 12 angry men


Any other good movies like 12 angry men and Ox-bow Incident? "Good moral movies" .. i dont know what to call them..

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I'd never considered that, although in TAM, Fonda's character managed to turn the entire jury around, which he failed to do here. There is a parallel, of course, that Fonda was the righteous man standing up to the angry crowd.

I heard some years ago that Fnda rated his 3 best films of his career (in no particular order):

* 12 Angry Men
* The Ox-Bow Incident
* Can't remember the other one. Perhaps I'll have to Wiki it

When I said I wanted to be a comedian, they all laughed at me. Well, they're not laughing now!

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Perhaps Grapes of Wrath?

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IMO this movie really really reminded me of "paths of glory"

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It's certainly thought-provoking.

Kim Novak in Vertigo: great.

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Finally, I thought of another one: To Kill a Mockingbird.

Norman Vincent Peale: "Stay Alive All Your Life".

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That's what I thought too, only difference is the downer ending.


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Last movie watched: The Ox-Bow Incident (6/10)

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filmgutten says > Any other good movies like 12 angry men and Ox-bow Incident? "Good moral movies" .. i dont know what to call them..
I don't know what to call them either but it's important to note that in both movies, and most others of this type, the 'good' guys are not trying to convince the others that the accused are innocent.

They acknowledge they don't know one way or the other. The accused may be guilty for all they know but the determination of guilt should be based on irrefutable evidence that supports that conclusion rather than on mere assumption.

We all have a tendency to jump to conclusions at times. We think if something 'seems' to be true, it must be true; if enough people believe something, it must be true; if a rumor is repeated enough times or a lot of people are saying the same thing, what they're saying must be true. Well, those things aren't proof and we cannot use that king of 'truth' to condemn people.

The 'bad' people in these movies aren't necessarily evil, though some may be. Often they're people who are eager to do the right thing; perhaps a little too eager, or they're people who are apathetic and more than willing to follow the crowd. Most think they're righting a wrong but in their haste or indifference they usually end up doing more harm than good.

I love these movies because they do have a strong moral message. That message is not about forgiveness, acceptance, or tolerance; it's about the morality of thinking based on facts not emotions, standing up for what we believe, speaking our minds, and not going along with the crowd.

These days we're told the thing that matters most in life is getting along. We're supposed to embrace whatever is the accepted and popular thing; otherwise known as the 'norm'. We're not supposed to speak our minds, or speak against anything we can't support because it may cause conflict and, of course, conflict must be avoided at all costs. These movies should remind us that we've got it all wrong.

The 'bad' guys in these movies are the ones who are quick to jump on the bandwagon. They question nothing. They act on emotions rather than facts, and they're anxious to avoid conflict. Don't be a bad guy, speak your mind!


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I have literally watched those 2 movies (both favourites) in the past few days. 12 AM really fires my sense of the need for the jury system and makes me cheer for justice for those that aren't proven to be guilty beyond reasonable doubt. HOWEVER Ox-Bow ALWAYS makes me weep in ANGER - I know the story but I still push my fists into my eyes when the lynching is approaching. The VERY first time I watched this film was at 11 pm on the telly and I sobbed for over an hour after it had finished. 10 years later, my response is pretty much the same - now THAT is a powerful film.

They don't make these sort of films much today (except maybe in Britain which loves gritty, dark stories).

PLEASE, I want to watch more films that have bleak endings that make you think (I HATE, HATE, HATE happy endings!!!) Any other film ideas anyone???

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Except that the "They look damn guilty; string 'em up!" instinct prevailed in The Ox-Bow Incident".

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