I think I heard a little explosion!
Keep in mind the quote: (and remember it's Whitman) "...untold want...ne'er granted, Now, Voyager, sail thou forth to seek and find."
This occurred to me as I read the august assertions that this film could never be remade.
I'm no sensationalist, nor does this idea come out of any political motivation.
I'm more interested in what people have to say
Probably, but the family dynamic behind Charlotte's longtime depression would have to be changed (exchanging her mother for a self-righteous vampire of a wife?)
At the audition I had to karaoke to "Smoke On The Water". I was 45. A very lonely experience.
It would be fine with Mom as is. The depression is mostly (I think) genetic; the mother doesn't
show her own depression due to her iron-willed self control...
Genetic depression in NV? No-o-o-o-o-o-o! You've missed the point entirely.
Charlotte's depression is clearly the result of growing up with that devouring mother. Go back and listen to what the dr. says to the mother: "My dear Mrs. Vale, if you had deliberately and maliciously planned to destroy your daughter's life, you couldn't have done it more completely."
And, Charlotte's speech to the doctor, whom she hardly knows yet to whom she reveals all of this, growing agitated and emotional: "I'm fat. My mother doesn't approve of dieting. Look at my shoes. My mother approves of sensible shoes. Look at the books on my shelves. My mother approves of good solid books. I'm my mother's well-loved daughter. I'm her companion. I am my mother's servant. My mother says! My mother. My mother! MY MOTHER!"
"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."
What would be the point?
shareIf I were going to remake it, the point would be to seriously explore a relationship between two men without resorting to camp or stereotypes. "Brokeback Mountain" tried to do that, but fell into the cliché of the guilt-ridden closeted gay person. A remake of "Now, Voyager" with two people of the same sex could fall into that trap, because it is a story about guilt, but if that's kept strictly to the two relationships the protagonists have with other people (the mother for one and the wife for the other) and not about their relationship with each other, then I think it would give an honest view of gay people. And it wouldn't necessarily have to be two men. It could also work with two women.
shareWhat a great idea! I'd see it.
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Men might work, if we eliminate sexual preference as the root cause. A son always neglected, never given the opportunity to offer an opinion. Instead of the ship board romance early in life, it could be the choice of career or a business opportunity. The father stops it and the son withdraws. After the therapy, of course romance. But in today's age, both men walking away from love would be a hard sell.
Edit: this post is edited to add that it's unbelievable for any two people to walk away from love due to the obstacle of another person. Men are mentioned because of the post and my wish to eliminate sexual preference as the issue.
If we can save humanity, we become the caretakers of the world
Why do you think both men walking away from love would be a hard sell?
shareI was going to edit my post to add any two people, not just two men. Men are the object of this post, only. Plus, I was trying to stay away from the obvious issue with two men in love. They can't be in love, they won't be in love, etc. Having said that I believe people men or women don't give up on love because of someone else. They themselves may have issues, but the obstacle of someone preventing them from love is out dated, in my opinion.
As for the update, so many stories give up on love that I would like to see love win for a change.
If we can save humanity, we become the caretakers of the world
first-things-first, I don't quite understand what you mean by "root cause," but I want to address two things:
People do indeed still walk away from love to avoid hurting others -- to avoid hurting a spouse, to avoid hurting a child (as was the case in NV). Yes, some people have little regard for the needs of others -- but some are able to put the needs of others first, and in a case such as this (putting a fragile child's needs above the needs of two adults), I'd say it's more common than you might think. And it's admirable, and it's how adults should behave.
And: sexual ORIENTATION, not preference. People are born with an orientation. To say "preference" is to imply that gay men and lesbians CHOOSE to love whom they love, and that's a bizarre idea -- as bizarre as suggesting that a hetero man or woman could make the choice to be gay. Sexuality is as inborn, and should be as free from judgment, as hair color.
"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."
Thanks for the clarity about choice. Sexual orientation is correct. I meant attraction more than preference. As you state some choices are out of our hands.
As for root cause, a common gay fiction trope is to have the parents not accept their children for who they want to love. Yes, it is true in real life, but in fiction I would like to see less of that issue. In this remake, make the issues the same as in this movie, controlling who they will be, using social status or any other path to keep children from seeking a life of their own.
People do walk away from love, and it saddens me because getting it right in love can be rare. I believe that if we open our hearts we can accept the choices of others. That the hurt and pain initially felt is soothed by our ability to forgive and understand. A tall order yes, but a compassionate one. As for your example (edit: which I don't know the specifics), I don't know many parents that wouldn't give their all for their children. Or adults that would put their feelings above a child. I'm just cautious about what we teach children. How leading by example may continue a behavior instead of allowing more freedom of choice.
Don't wake up giving yourself a pass. Challenge yourself to be better
Who would you suggest as stars of such a film?
shareActually, it has been, of a sort. I saw a theatrical version some years ago (late 90s, early 2000s..) called "How Now, Voyager" rewritten for a gay romance. It wasn't very good. We went home and watched the 'real' version afterwards. You can google it, I'm sure
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