I watched this movie tonight. It chilled me when Kathryn Hepburn's character spelled out her husband's plot to use hate to polarize the country so he and his saboteur friends could take over the country. I couldn't help but think of the modern Republican party which does this exact thing which brought them to power with Bush 1 and also carried W into office. And the tea baggers are using this same hate message to try to win elections.
shareFunny, I thought the exact same thing; well almost……….
It actually reminded me of how the modern Democrat Party divides Americans into competing classes: rich/middle class vs. poor, black vs. white, male vs. female, homosexual vs. straight, young vs. elderly, red-state vs. blue-state etc.
“Divide and conquer” is the DNC platform motto. Democrat leaders today thrive on division and the hate & distrust that it creates. Since they cannot win on principle, they use subterfuge and deception to hide their actions from the voting public.
And like any good socialist party they find scapegoats to blame their mass failings onto: “The Rich”, Big Oil, Wall Street, conservatives, Free-Enterprise, Christians, Catholics and Israel (“them Jews”).
During Hepburn’s great climatic scene, I thought of the Obama Regime when her character of Christine Forrest rattled off the scope of her secretive husband’s methods and goals for America. It really was quite chilling indeed............
***and there is no more hateful term than “tea-baggers” to call Americans exercising their First Amendment rights. “Tea-bagging” is an activity that homosexuals willfully engage in. Ironic isn’t it, that the rabid left uses such foul & hateful names against everyday, patriotic Americans.
Its a good thing you have a radio because its obvious you get all of your politcal talking points from the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. l And by the way the tea baggers original used that name. Tea Bag party.....finally someone told Rush(the Reich Minister of Propaganda) what it really was and the
word was spread to blame the liberals for the name so the Party wouldn't look so stupid.
trf100; "During Hepburn’s great climatic scene, I thought of the Obama Regime when her character of Christine Forrest rattled off the scope of her secretive husband’s methods and goals for America. It really was quite chilling indeed............
Very good description!!
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Yes a very good description of what an uninformed person thinks. The Republicans could not the win the Presidency =twice. I wonder if they will ever win it again. They are the ones that have polarized the country - I just heard this new congressman from North Carolina say that Obama could go back to Kenya or wherever he is from. Meadows one of the authors of shutdown the government
only won because of redistricting, otherwise I doubt he could be elected dog catcher in the original district. Fascism isnt such a far stretch to call the Republicans and they don't even try to hide it. If they cannot get what they want they will let other people suffer while they get fat sitting there doing nothing. Certainly not governing. If you don't like something then win elections and get the majority so you can change it. You don't hold a whole country hostage until you get what you want. This is extremism and is very very dangerous to democracy.
Interesting how you decry the Democrats for dividing the country and spreading a message of hate while basically calling them Nazis and leveling every possible insult at them, because that's not at all divisive or hateful. Come to think of it, why didn't you add that they kick puppies and rape grandmothers?
And as for Democrats blaming Israel and Jews, come ON. Rabidly defending the Israeli government no matter the atrocities it commits is pretty much the only thing Republicans and Democrats have in common.
"He's already attracted to her. Time and monotony will do the rest."
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You "did a search"? Really? Where's the quote and the link that tea party members called themselves "teabaggers"?
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"I read it on the internet, so it must be true!"
Tea party members never called themselves "teabaggers." That's a lie, told by the same tools like you who used that word, knowing its gross and disgusting meaning.
Did you do one?
shareThe chronology of "teabagger" is pretty funny, no matter what your political point of view.
When the movement first started gathering steam, supporters were showing up with tea bags dangling off their hats or glasses. And yes, some of them gleefully called themselves "teabaggers".
It went more or less unremarked until Stephen Colbert picked up on it, and did an absolutely merciless, brilliantly funny commentary on it in an opening monologue. Suddenly even people who'd never heard the term in their lives were treated to a full explication of where it originated.
Almost overnight, the conversation stream reversed, and it was so rude to call a Tea Party member a teabagger!
For me, having studied linguistics, it was great fun to watch the whole thing evolve.
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Nothing to see here, move along.
A lot more suggests Obama and his supporters. An interesting line in the film:Even his birthplace is unknown..
share"A lot more suggests Obama and his supporters. An interesting line in the film:Even his birthplace is unknown.."
My God, how do Birthers even exist anymore?
Just... no words.
"He's already attracted to her. Time and monotony will do the rest."
It is SO ironic you should say that!
I'm watching this movie now, and ALL I can think of is Obama!
The (grand)mother hidden away, no one allowed to talk to her; Tracey as a reporter, typing his story: "Even the place of his birth is uncertain..."; the doctor saying that women and children have nervous breakdowns "around a god. You don't love a god. You just worship him."
Then there's Hepburn's speech at the end, about the "god": "His contempt for democracy, his incredible arrogance...he was a traitor to his country!"
Really good movie! And DEFINITELY has implications for what's going this very moment, the hero worship of a political "god" who has a shady, hidden background, and turns out to be the OPPOSITE of the fervor he whipped up among the highly gullible.
You can't be a socialist AND a fascist. The profile on the film is of conservative hero loved by the nation who did more harm than good. His story is to be cleaned up to keep the myth alive in spite of the obvious evidence.
Obama is worshiped by the liberal few and admired by the rest. George W. is considered a buffoon by most. The movie model is more akin to Ronald Reagan or Walt Disney. Right wing conservatives heroes who hid their fascist leanings under Americana flag waving.
Of COURSE you can be socialist and fascist; that's what the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party was!
shareIt is indeed an attack on the very rich seizing dictatorial power through division and hatred. Today, the neo conservatives and Tea Party are surely the keepers of this flame.
Obama, who was elected by a clear majority, was born in Hawaii.
Don't be fooled - both parties are clearly backed by the rich. Two sides of the same coin.
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The left does it, too. Their most recent effort was entitled "class warfare".
share"You have an error in your name. It should be simpmleminded."
It's always fun when a jerk who giggles at the term "tea bagger" tries to make a funny and misspells it. "Simpmleminded"? Yes. You are, nummy.
Hepburn described, word for word, what the progressive left is doing today. Verbatim! It's uncanny!
shareInteresting. People seem to interpret the "message" in KOTF precisely according to their ideologies.
However, it should be pointed out that in America in the late 1930s, it was staunch conservatives who were the most enthusiastic supporters of Adolph Hitler. Even after he denied all civil rights to non-Aryans, they backed him because they saw the Fuhrer as a bulwark against Communism.
Fast forward to today: Who in America maintains, on radio and TV, a daily and unremitted message of hatred and intolerance? Who casts slurs upon woman and considers them second rate citizens? Who spews a steady stream of invectives and intolerance toward African-Americans and Latinos? Who preaches that the government of the United States of America is their enemy, to be hated and feared?
I do not need to answer those questions, because you know exactly who I'm talking about. And you know who their staunch supporters are.
Tout homme a deux pays, le sien et puis la France.
"Who in America...?"
Why, the left, that's who. You're mistaking ridicule towards the left as hatred. The leftists preach tolerance, but seldom practice it. You are lumping racists in with conservatives, but the right rejects their beliefs, just as they reject the progressive philosophy.
Yes, *some* conservatives in the 30's backed Hitler, but from the 50's on to this very day, the leftists have embraced socialism, wanting to use whatever means they can in order to fully integrate it into America. Whatever means - lying, cheating, voter fraud, calls for violence and murder...as I said, whatever means.
I guess you never heard the slurs from leftists directed towards conservative women such as Coulter, Bachmann, Malkin, etc....or if you did, you probably agreed with them. The left is full of misogynists, bigots, too. The right embraces their black or Latino conservatives, the left calls them "Uncle Toms" or "Greasers" or "traitors to their kind." You can see that any day of the week in forums such as The Daily Kos, HuffPo, Alternet, The Daily Beast, MoveOn, ThinkProgress, etc. - too many to list, actually. Most of the right-leaning message boards I've been to don't allow that sort of hate talk, at least not in such a vulgar manner.
Why was it when Bush was President, that "dissension was the highest form of patriotism", but disagree with Obama and suddenly you're a hatemonger and racist? Why was it the left jumped up and down for joy when Reagan died but became apoplectic at any criticism of the murdering Teddy Kennedy when he kicked the bucket? The left loves to point out the bloody past of Christianity, yet won't say a word about the abomination that is radical Islam.
When you level those charges at the right, you're projecting, simple as that. I'm not projecting, just merely pointing out your hypocrisy.
BTW,France suce
Interesting. People seem to interpret the "message" in KOTF precisely according to their ideologies.
Couldn't have not picked up on that- especially regarding big money to but elections and telling people how to vote, issuing media campaigns pitting people against people using racism, anti-labor, and anti-not Protestant means. All dictated by a group of greedy rich men seeking power. This has Tea Party written all over it.
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