Only one quibble


I really liked this movie, however, I was cringing when she was trying to get the rich guy (Dick?) to marry her.
Too bad nobody wants to disciss this movie!
Marianne

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I'd like to discuss it. What, specifically did you not like about it? Just wondering. She was a little obvious at that part...she was also inebriated, so...
This isn't my favorite movie of her's but I liked it a lot better when she chose the right guy at the end.

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Yup, the ending had me guessing right up until the last minute!

I didn't like the way she was "hinting" that she wanted a marriage proposal because she was so pathetic. It was pretty painful.

I don't believe I've ever seen any of her other movies so I can't say where this one stands.
Marianne

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I know what you mean. She was throwing herself at him. I don't think it bothers me that much, by I did cringe a little. To make it easier to watch, I just remind myself that she's drunk and riding in a plane with "the man of her dreams." This has been her ideal, her prince charming, from the time she was little. So, after she drinks, her self control disappears, and she is less that discrete. This makes it funnier. While I was watching it, I actually said to myself, "And that is why I don't drink."

I love Ginger Rogers. Not only is she absolutely beautiful, but she is also extremely talented. I love her movies with Fred Astaire. They actually say on my DVD's that the reason that every woman loved Fred Astaire was because Ginger was such a wonderful actress. She made it look like the best thing in the world was dancing with Fred Astaire. I definitely recommend that you watch more of her movies, especially if you liked this one, because, as I said before, (in my opinion) this is not the best movie she ever made. It's still good, but there are better ones. Maybe it was just that the um...flippancy of her character annoyed me. I'm not sure.

If you like musicals, watch her movies w/Fred Astaire. (Even if you don't like them, you might still want to try watching one. She was also in 42nd Street and Gold Diggers of 1933, in which she sang in Pig-Latin.) If not, you might try Stage Door (She has a smaller part, but she's great-her dialogue in this movie is wonderfully witty), The Major and the Minor, 5th Avenue Girl, Monkey Business, It Had to Be You, Tender Comrade, and Kitty Foyle (The last 2 are more serious. As an aside, Ginger won an Oscar for her performance in the latter). Those are ones I’ve seen and really enjoyed. Although I haven’t seen Storm Warning, I love both Doris Day and Ginger Rogers, and if I were a betting person-which I am not-I’d bet that Storm Warning would be worth watching. If you can get your hands on that one, I’d be extremely jealous because I have been looking for it for years. It is also more serious. One Upon a Honeymoon wasn’t bad either.

Come to think of it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of her movies that I didn’t like. Sorry I rambled on. But if you have that chance to watch any of her other movies, go for it. It would be worth your time.

•"I wish I'd been born lucky instead of beautiful and hungry.”
•"Goodbye. Thanks for calling. If you ever need a good pall-bearer, remember I'm at your service." –Two great lines from Ginger as Jean Maitland in Stage Dooor

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In Depression movies, a poor working girl always aspired to marry a rich man. See "Bachelor Mother" (1939), also with Ginger Rogers.

"Tom Dick and Harry" is a good entry in the Rogers canon, although I prefer "Kitty Foyle," "Perfect Strangers" and "Forever Female."

Bill Sternman

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I really want to see this movie. It sounds so cute. Anyone want to give me some funny highlights or memorable lines, scenes? =)

~angela~

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Message me if you would like a copy

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I do like to have a copy of that movie. Can you send a DVD to France ? Thanks

we've got the stars

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I will. But first off, WHY did those scenes make you cringe? I felt the scenes were slightly dissonant, in that Ginger's character appears in the rest of the film to be barely of legal age: her actions, the fact she still lives at home, her clothes, etc. all give the impression she is a rather unsophisticated and relatively young girl (of course, Ginger's played such roles before and after). Given that, I felt a bit uneasy (nothing extreme) in these scenes, in which she would be totally out-classed (experience-wise) by the rich man, and quite exploitable. His motives seems less than honorable, given that her character would not have appealed to his character except in one way.

It's a comedy of course, but I also felt a bit wary about the way her parents took the events: here their little girl brings back three men (at least one of them older than she is) and she seems ready to marry them all. The parents seemed pretty chipper about this unusual occurrence.

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It wasn't until the 1970s that it was common for a girl to go to college and then leave home to live on her own, or with a friend. "Good" girls were expected to stay home with her parents until she married.

I mention this, dmh7-1, because the fact she lived at home seemed to be "off" to you.

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Thanks, but I wasn't slightly "put off" by the fact she was staying at home (after all that is getting to be rather common again), but by the fact that her personality certainly makes her seem seventeen at best, and her parents seem to have no problem at all with letting her fly off with a rich man to a strange city and drink like a trouper. I suspect that this sort of "license" was not very common then (particularly with "good" girls) and it seems rather unrealistic here - which is not too awful in such a light-themed film - but also a bit "queasy". Now she might have been an older character (I still think the flying off with a stranger scenario would have been a little disconcerting), but Ginger certainly makes her seem much younger. But a small point overall. The film is enjoyable enough as it is.

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IIRC, her parents thought she was at a local friend's birthday party. Janie said so to Dick on the flight back home. No self-respecting father would allow her daughter to gallivant about like that.

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Just saw Kitty Foyle before TD&H. Having spent some youth time shuttling between Philly and Manhattan that was some memory flash. Main Line and all that entails. Buckets of rigid caste system that makes London or India blush.
Even New York's famed 100 couldn't hold a candle to that fixed culture of us and them.
In the production credits for both films I noticed gowns by Renie. In Foyle she really moved up the line as seen by her increasingly minimalist outfits.
By the end she was in a terrific clean lines executive type suit. Fit her
perfectly and was a real statement of how far she had come on her own w/o the
'blessings' of the Philly Assembly crowd.
Another little detail that adds to the subtle quality of TD&H is that the editor
is John Sturges. Check out his film direction bio! Did so many of the great
war and adventure films of 50s & 60s. The Magnificent Seven, The Great Escape,
etc. Hard to tell from this one but he was cutting his teeth well here.
The flashbacks and intercuts are his technique. Also can see how the painter
Edward Hopper could be influenced by the style of this one. Sharp angles,
advertising signs, sense of space.
Also love the digs at emerging mass society in its advertising power. FOB Detroit. Gags have the speed of a Marx Brothers film. $1107. "Happy little customers family".
Neat little film in its own way. Bit of a time capsule of course but how
cool to see Phil Silvers jamming that big mug full on for first time at the car.
The younger daughter is a piece of work esp when first meeting one of the boy
friends. Gives her nickname as "Butch"! Sure is....
"Don't come home too early." Great line from Butch. Moments like that really
pull it together. Big car to streetcar life. Confusion can always be counted
on as a plot device. Even seeing Ginger dancing in a record booth. Clever.
From the wide open days with Fred to the narrow confines.
Burgess reminds me of Mickey Rourke in build and manner. Very apparent in the
bowling scene.
Quite a lot of 'democratic' (we are the People) tone to it given the war mentality at hand. There the Hitler speech on newsreel in theater at beginning
and sailors, soldiers in uniform here and there.
Ginger is great as the all 'merican girl but with a twist. Just a bit of Sandra
Bullock in some ways, facial closeups and tone.
Don't make them quite like this today, but still there are lot of parallels.


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I just saw this movie. While I am no Rogers expert, the scene with her and Mr. Rich Guy was one of the best in the whole movie. She did that tipsy funny act really perfectly and was very different than she was in many of her more serious roles. This is far from the Fred Astaire / Ginger Rogers dance act movies. A GOOD one.

Glad TCM is around to introduce these great films and old stars to the modern generation.

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I just saw it for the first time tonight. I give it a "fair" rating.
Rogers was wonderful, Murphy reliable as always, but the great Meredith
stole the picture. The scenes with Marshall (the rich guy) were pretty
bad.

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I agree that Burgess stole the picture. Really, I think Ginger's scenes with him are the best in the movie. Her character seems more genuinely interested in his. Tom seems like a suitor to fall back on in case nothing better comes along and she seems more interested in the "idea" of Dick, rather than the actual guy (that sounded horrible, but hopefully you know what I mean, haha!). And, more important than anything, Burgess Meredith is so stinkin' cute! From watching this movie, I can see why, in real life, he was quite the ladies' man. And such a remarkable actor. *sigh*

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I absolutely did not think Ginger Rogers was any good in this! She sounded like a little girl. I did like the guys in it though especially Burgess Meridith.

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I have to agree with you on that. I really didn't like her character in this movie. She was a mercenary lil thing who was willing to say yes to George Murphy's proposal one night and then jump in a stranger's car the next day just because she thought he was rich... Pretty low to me...

As she was riding off at the end all I could think of was I was so happy she was gonna be barefoot and pregnant and living on scraps the rest of her life...

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I had always liked this movie before, but for some reason this time Ginger Roger's voice drove me crazy. She kept talking like she did in "The Major and the Minor" where she is supposed to be a little girl. That movie is a lot of fun, but it's a stretch. No one would believe her to be that age.

But it was a little irritating in this movie.

Burgess Meredith is the best part and it's impossible to believe that he would grow up to be Rocky's trainer. The years are certainly kinder to some than to others.

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If this film was set today...Rogers character would do more than kiss each suitor.She'd have to bed each one,to convince today's audience.Making her a bit of a trollop.

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