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I've noticed that people bitch about the lack of WWI movies. It would be so badass if they remake this movie

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Yes. People seem to not think of WWI due to the world wide scale of WWII, the vastly improved technology of warfare, and the impact that WWII had on the US as well as the world we know today. However, WWI was like the prequel to WWII, which really was a war of unresolved issues left over from WWI. WWI was the first war which introduced airplanes, gas attacks, tanks, hand-held automatic rifles, and so on and so on. What made WWI ultimately so different was the clash of the old style of 19th Century warfare with 20th Century technology. Imagine that opening scene from 'Saving Private Ryan' played out in practically every battle for four years of conflict.

Absolutely. I think this would be a fine movie to remake. With the technological advances in movie production today, the special effects would be breathtaking. There was lots of carnage and havoc in WWI, just as horrific as WWII. It could easily rival 'Saving Pvt Ryan.'

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yeah a remake--hopefully they pick up the pace a bit--i don;t mean constant quick michael bay style cuts and mtv style flashes but pacing wise, would manage to not be too bad for a remake hopefully, i can't be the only one who thought it was really sluggish--seriously that first hour, whatever before he gets shipped out to ww1 or at least before he discovers his pacifist ways, it dragged, but i liked the turkey shoot though. i think homer paid reference to it when he was hunting turkey and accidently shot moe!

but then you have the automatic question--who would play sgt. york and fill gary cooper's shoes--consider this a vote for uhhh Paul Walker. what? what are you looking at? he's ummm tall and um athletic and um could defeat the germans singlehandedly. ????? ok maybe not.

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I do not believe that one should remake a film that 1. did well at the box office and 2. is already a great film.

They should remake movies that do poorly (whether good or not) to help promote the original; and perhaps remakes of just really bad films.

Why remake a movie that's already worth watching in its originality? However, if they were to make another movie based on Alvin York's life, that wouldn't be considered a "remake", especially since Sergeant York really isn't "true to form". However, in today's world, it would be less true-to-form than the original.

I read Alvin York's diary; and I believe someone may have gone into it, and added things because at some points his vocabulary seemed to improve greatly over a short period of time by some of the dates of the entries made.

'...the ultimate ending is: war itself.'

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No way. Movie is far too good to be ruined by a remake. Let people pull there heads out of the sand and watch great movies instead of weak remakes. While I appreciate the sentiment of it being such a great movie, I have yet to see a good remake of a classic.

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Yes, this actually is a movie worth remaking. True it is a classic, but the fact that there is a remake made doesn't take away from the goodness of this film.

As far a actor to play York, my vote is for Lucas Black. Any other Ideas???

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No, No, No, Hell NO! There are plenty of other worthy historical subjects out there, including WWI subjects, to make new movies about without disturbing people's memories of "Sergeant York," which was very much a movie of its time. Unless someone wanted to create an entirely new script, which would accurately portray the actual events in the life of Alvin C. York, contemporary filmmakers should leave Gary Cooper, Howard Hawks, and Warner Brothers to rest on their laurels.

If you want more WWI films, how about a movie about African-American soldiers in the war? "Harlem Hellfighters" is a great title and very apt. Honor the USMC with a film about Belleau Wood. And how about a movie about the U.S. troops who were sent to north Russia in 1918 on an ill-conceived mission to fight the Bolsheviks? Very timely right now.

There are some movies I'd like to see remade, but "Sergeant York" ain't one of them. It's quite good as is.

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I was thinking that a movie like this could be remade to be even more realistic (as the real York wanted it to be) without the 'phony Hollywood heroics'. I would like an actor that isn't as stilted sounding as Gary Cooper.

However, I think it would be even better to make a 'new' WW1 film. However, I wouldn't want it to be about 'honoring' US soldiers per se. Apart from being so US-centric and would just further the notion in the US that wars only really start when they invade, the most horrific aspects (and most filmable maybe) of that war happened way before the US got involved. Classic films like 'All Quiet On The Western Front' and 'Paths of Glory' tried to show some of these elements but they could present an even more graphic view these days.

The US invading Russia idea would be interesting, either from the US perspective or the Bolshevik one--or both because it seemed to lay (or certainly enforce) the foundation for Soviet distrust of the "West".

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I agree with Keyser & Gator.
Leave it alone.
There should be a rule that only Bad movies can be remade.
Unlike others,I liked the 1st part of the movie and thought it had a certain quaintness that would be hard to duplicate, let alone, improve upon.
I also suspect that, today, the SFs would overwhelm the story, which, to me at least, was the most appealing aspect of the original.
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Wouldn't Lucas Black be a bit young to play the part? After all Alvin York was 29 when he registered for the draft, and I believe 30 when he actually went to war (after bootcamp), and around 32 when he came back from the war.

Lucas Black is only 25, and he looks younger than that.

'...the ultimate ending is: war itself.'

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I agree with Keyser, Gator and Les. There are so many reasons that a remake would be a bad idea that it's hard to list them all. First of all, Alvin C. York personally selected Gary Cooper to portray him, and stipulated it in the contract. Plus, Alvin York's family and the families of every real person named in the movie would have to give their permission for a remake, and I don't think they'd give it. BTW, CrushedGirl, there were no "phony Hollywood heroics" shown in the movie. About the only thing in the movie that was "Hollywood phony" was the way they showed men dying, throwing out their arms and spinning around. If anything, they understated York's heroism. Also, Alvin York was fairly happy with the movie. I do agree with you that a new WWI movie about a subject that hasn't been made into a movie would be a good idea. I found a great book in a used bookstore a few years ago. It's entitled "Men at War", and it was edited by Ernest Hemingway. It's a collection of war stories from ancient times up to the start of WWII, and it has several good WWI stories in it that would make good movies. Hollywood does way too many remakes and sequels as it is. Just because a movie is an old classic that was filmed in black and white is no excuse to encourage them. Instead of calling for remakes, we need to be inundating the major Hollywood studios with letters and emails telling them we're TIRED of the endless stream of remakes, sequels, and TV series adaptations, and we want NEW STORIES.

Now, having said all that, what I would like to see is a docudrama style biopic of Alvin York's entire life. He shrewdly used his fame not to enrich himself, but to improve the lives of many people. When asked on numerous occasions how he wanted to be remembered, York often said, "for helping improve education in Tennessee, bringing in better roads, and just helping my fellow man." I think his family would be much more likely to give permission for a movie like that than an inferior remake of this great classic.

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No they wouldn't. If based on his diary, which was published I believe, then they'd need permission from the person who holds the copyright of the diary unless 50 years has passed since his death, which it hasn't. But, if it's to make a film on his life, they don't need anyone's permission to such a thing. That reality was taken away when he died. On about everyone else in the film - also not true. If that were true, than many films today couldn't be made. Everyone's life isn't something someone can automatically copyright.

"CrushedGirl, there were no "phony Hollywood heroics" shown in the movie."

Yes there was. Sergeant York is my favorite film. I've seen it hundreds of times, and it has been my favorite film for over 15 years (I'm 30) but even I know that the totallity of the film is not based on actual truth; it was a film produced, and made to promote recruitment for WWII. Alvin York even admitted to such a thing himself. He didn't like it but he felt there was no choice because he felt what was going on against the Jewish people was wrong. He was a pacifist but even he knew that sometimes "war" is necessary. However, in saying that, there is a lot of "truth" about his life in it, and why most of the movie is focused on his life rather than just the war itself as most WWII movies of that era were projected towards. Though, some of what was portrayed as being what happened to him in "real" life was stretched a bit here and there.



'...the ultimate ending is: war itself.'

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Well in that case maybe it should be redone, without the propoganda. My vote would be for Barry Pepper, or maybe Jake Gyllenhal.

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I'd love to see more films regarding the "Great War" era, but I'm not sure how well any would do at the 21st Century box office. Maybe a cable venture would be more realistic. BTW, it wasn't just American troops who were sent to Russia to partcipate in that civil war; it was an international force that included Japanese, British, Czech, Rumanian, Canadian, Italian,and others who fought with Tsarist forces against the Bolsheviks. I've never seen any filmic portrayal of the U.S. "Polar Bear" units, so one would be welcome.
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