David's dinner date


Did I miss something in this scene? I was hoping something would be resolved...

Are we to assume that David, while in love with Alexandra, was romancing another woman? Or are we supposed to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume they were just acquaintances? Or was he doing research for the newspaper? Or were they brother and sister?

Does the movie say anything about this? I realize Alexandra's reaction to their being together was really the purpose of this scene, but I'm curious about why he was out with the lady in the first place.

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We were thinking that this other woman was a reporter who was also attending the conference that David was attending...might that be the reason they were together at dinner?

(I was watching that exact scene as I read your post and didn't really catch any one explaination)...

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Was it typical for women to work as reporters at the turn of the century? It's not inconceivable, I suppose, but not terribly likely either. My guess would be that they were friends. Maybe the woman was a relative or a friend of the family or something like that. We also know, based on the beginning of the movie, that David encourages people to talk to everyone they come across, so she could simply have been a recent acquaintance he had met on the train or at the hotel.

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It was possible she was a reporter. Women entered the professional workforce in the 1870s. Ever heard of Nellie Bly?

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I have heard of her, and your point is well taken. I concede that it is indeed possible.

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So why didn't David allay Zan's fears if it was an "innocent" date? I kept waiting for him to tell her later what that was all about (or not). It's like he liked keeping her guessing and in suspense about his intentions.

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David did many things to provoke Alexandra, he pushed her to break from the childish snobbery or selfishness that he felt her family possessed, which he feared was rubbing off on her.

When they are picking crab apples he suggests she go far away, and she becomes infurirated. But there was a subtext: he wants her to grow up, to realize, as her father has also said, that she must learn to consider others' feelings and views into consideration.

Even if David were at dinner with a 'date,' no matter how indignant she may feel, is it her right to insult the other woman? To pout and act like a child? She is rude and wrong to react as she did, particularly when she is unfamiliar with the arrangement between them. I agree that she was most likely a fellow journalist or pamphlet writer (it wasn't that improbable, there were ladies journals and a few budding investigative journalists like Ida R. Tarbell).

After the party David tells Alexandria that she needs to figure things out for herself, it won't be the same if she is 'told' what to think. I believe he is extremely fond of her, but wants to keep her guessing (as you said) because he wants to make sure she has the character, the personality to be worth pursuing. She proves herself, slowly. Nevertheless, David does seem to leave her in suspense, hoping she will develop the poise to interact with other people, not simply demand things (like her family).

Frankly, it's not that unreasonable.

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About that date, IIRC her back is always to the camera and we never see her face. What did the filmmakers have in mind by doing that?

Imagine this actress being cast in a William Wyler movie starring Bette Davis; and none of her family, friends, or acting colleagues can actually get a glimpse of her.

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