The Ending?


Could someone explain the ending? She walked out of the house and into the marsh. To run away? or to Kill herself?

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Ya know it was just at the ending that the family started a rucus.....would appreciate views as well....

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I just watched this movie this morning after taping it a couple of weeks ago.
I got the feeling that Ellen couldnt live with the guilt anymore and was on her way to the police to turn herself in.There seem to be a lot more to this story that meets the eyes,such as the source of the sister's insanity and why Albert seemed to be the same age as his aunt Ellen,if not older.

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I don't think that he was really her nephew...at least that is the impression that I got....she even told him to quit the whole auntie bit.

I too believe that the guilt started to be too much. She also had to believe that Lucy was going to the police anyway. I guess you could believe either way...she either went to turn herself in or to kill herself.

I don't see Ellen as the suicide type so I think that she probably turned herself in.

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I just watched this movie this morning after taping it a couple of weeks ago.
I got the feeling that Ellen couldnt live with the guilt anymore and was on her way to the police to turn herself in.There seem to be a lot more to this story that meets the eyes,such as the source of the sister's insanity and why Albert seemed to be the same age as his aunt Ellen,if not older.


Wait.....Albert was Ellen's nephew?!!! :O I thought he was she and her sisters' cousin. Which sister was his mother? Or was there a 4th sister that wasn't shown?

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The film is loosely based on a true murder case in France in the 1880s. There was a nephew, son of a different sibling, who turned up and tried to blackmail his aunt about the murder, then when she wouldn't pay he went to the police. So i suppose the nephew in this film is also meant to be the son of another sibling, but I'm not sure.

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In the film he repeatedly referred to himself as their nephew and them as his aunts. When they see him for the first time (his 2nd visit) one of them says that he is Rosa's boy. So yes, there would seem to be an off screen sister, much older than the tree others (and possibly/likely dead).

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yeah
she was going to turn herself in.
great movie

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Hmm, I just finished it, and I figured she left to kill herself. Only b/c she went into the fog and whatnot. I was hoping Robert O would say something about the ending.


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I think she was just running away to find another position, leaving her two sisters to fend for themselves. She is too self-centered to turn herself in or kill herself.

Aunts come in all ages relative to nephews. I didn't have any problems with her being about the same age as her nephew Albert.

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Well, she was only letting the sisters "fend for themselves" for that one day. Just as she was leaving, one of them told her the two were going to go over and visit the nuns the next day--i.e., the same nuns who had just offered their help to Ellen if she needed it--and Ellen smiled when her sister told her this, although Ellen herself had previously rejected any help from the nuns.
Of course, if she was going to turn herself in, it seems safe to say that the police would be over to the house sooner rather than later--i.e., probably that same day, and the sisters would probably be taken in hand one way or another before they'd have a chance to walk over to the convent the next day on their own. That might suggest that she really was planning to disappear and/or kill herself, in which case her absence might not be noticed by the authorities for a while--which would be an interesting repetition of part of the fate of Miss Fisk--although it's true that Ellen at least TOLD her sisters that she was going to the village where she'd been told the police were in presence (whether she was telling her real intentions, who knows).
I realize all this is probably a bit too analytical, but it's fun. And it's nice to have a film that allows such discusion of its ending.

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She is too self-centered to turn herself in or kill herself.


What do you mean "self-centered"? All her problems rose because she was anything, but self-centered!

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Exactly. She did it for her sisters. Once she knew they'd be well taken care of, she smiled, kissed them and walked into the moors to die, probably by drowning/quicksand.

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exactly. everything she did was to help her sisters.

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I agree, I think she finally figured out a nice peaceful jail cell or bunk in an asylum was better than a discordant mess of a home, always in fear of being found out.

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Yes, especially that nasty piece of work, Emily. Always self-centered, egotistical, bratty, never showing any appreciation to Ellen, and bringing about her sister's downfall.

With a "sister" like that, who needs enemies? Emily is lucky to have such a nice sister, whereas I'd be tempted to slap her black and blue at every turn. At least, Louisa tries to cooperate and appreciates Ellen, despite being "coo-coo."

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She said that she was going to turn herself in, but I get the impression that she chose to kill herself instead. Just my humble opinion...After all, if she turned herself in, the cops would lock up her sisters!

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I think she was clearly going to die intentionally on the moors, probably in the marsh/quicksand. If you listen carefully to the conversation near the end, one of the sisters looks back to where they've just come from and says that Albert is playing tag with some men, and they've caught him. These are obviously the police arresting him for his bank crime.

So if she were going to give herself up, she'd just turn right after going out the door (where the sisters just came in from) and turn herself in right there. That is obviously the main street/sidewalk to the house. But instead she walks out and keeps on going away into the rough terrain where there is no sidewalk.

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So if she were going to give herself up, she'd just turn right after going out the door (from where the sisters just came in from) and turn herself in right there. That is obviously the main street/sidewalk to the house. But instead she walks out and keeps on going away into the rough terrain where there is no sidewalk.


Ooh, that's a good point. I originally thought that she was going to turn herself in too but committing suicide seems just as likely. It's clear that she felt great remorse for killing Mrs. Frisk and the burden of caring for her sisters, dealing with Albert and Lucy, faking Mrs. Frisk's signatures, keeping up with everything might've been too much to bear.

The nuns offered to help so Ellen knew that her sisters would eventually be looked after. If Albert should tell the police about his suspicions, they'd most likely search the house, discover Mrs. Frisk's body and evict the sisters. The nuns would probably take them in.

There's also the possibility that she walked away from all of that to start a new life but I doubt it...the final shot of her walking away into the distance seemed pretty bleak and foreboding,

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Yes, when she walked into the seemingly endless moors, she looked almost zombie-like in her gait. So I think suicide is the most likely goal. It may also have been a way to adhere to the production code that required justice, without all the mess of an arrest and trial. It was the right time and the right way to end the film.

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Good point. She could have just gone to the police who were arresting Albert. To me, it did seem like she was walking to some cliff or something and she'd throw herself over. I think that her priority even then was to save her sisters.

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