ANOTHER MISSING SCENE:


In Tracy's first transformation scene he goes to look into a mirror on the wall and what he sees as Hyde doesn't repel him at all, he speaks to his reflection and says something like; "I feel no shame. . .this evil is a good thing, this evil is a fine thing!"

I saw that scene in 1960 when it ran the first time on television and have never seen it again. With that in mind, watch that first transformation carefully and you'll discern a slight jump in movement and a 'pop' sound, both evidence that a cut was made.

Does anyone else remember the dialogue I describe and/or does anyone know why it was removed? It does not appear in the DVD transfer and I fear it has been lost forever.



...Motion Picture History

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I myself have never seen that piece, but I do indeed see a cut was made on the transformation. I would love to see that too.

Wenn Sie dieses lesen können, das Sie klug sind.

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Yes, it's at that point the scene was removed and did you hear an audible 'pop' in the soundtrack?

I can only imagine that some time after it was first aired on television in the late 1950's (with the scene intact) and the films transfer to videocassette by MGM/UA Home Entertainment in 1991, it was cut out. Why? Certainly not for running time concerns, if anything, scenes are restored when a film is transferred to video and disc and as much information as possible is added for the film lovers who buy them.

Even if the scene had been removed by a television station due to viewer objections, and lets assume lost, it would still be intact in the master print held by the studio who supplies the copies, which at that time period would have been the original MGM Studios. And, if that is true why would the scene be removed from the master print (if it was)??

For those of you who never saw it, I will tell you it bordered on gruesome and captured that first transformation as no other version has before or since. Its shock value didn't depend on physical theatrics or false teeth, but a tight arrangement of set atmosphere, lighting, camera position and utter silence in the soundtrack as he rises from the floor after his collapse and we see his face only as a reflection in a mirror. With the judicious use of make-up to accentuate the shadows in Tracy's self-contorted features, his face is revealed as a hideous, gleeful image of degeneracy. He wipes an area of the mirror clean with his sleeve studying his reflection and speaks; (words to the effect) "I feel no shame. . .this evil is a _good_ thing. . .this evil is a FINE thing."

Before Richard Speck, before the assassinations, the news clips of the dead in Viet Nam and before the Manson slaughters, or even the premiere of Psycho; audiences must have felt genuine shock by the visual imagery and those words spoken from an actor who up until then was known for his roles as Priests, and American heroes. . .I know I was. And so, that is what censors have deprived future audiences of, a brilliant and defining moment in an actors craft and visual continuity that if left intact, would have made the difference between a good film and a great one.


...Motion Picture History

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by FireFuryandFlame ...Wenn Sie dieses lesen können, das Sie klug sind.
Even though it's been several years since you posted this and that I had to put it through GOOGLE TRANSLATE ... I thank you for the compliment.

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Just watched it today.

Nothing appears to be missing, nor did I hear a "pop" in the soundtrack.

Tracy goes to the mirror, says, "Can this be evil?" and then laughs maniacally. That's the only dialog until his servant comes to the door and knocks.

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My video viewing*** gives the same result as seen by Shackley: No "pop," the fully transformed Hyde looks at himself a SECOND time in the mirror, and says "Can this be evil?" Then the butler knocks on the door.
A minute or 2 previously, the "poisoned" Jekyll first struggles up from the floor and staggers across the lab (we see only his silhouette), while mysterioso music plays on the soundtrack. That music is suddenly interrupted by an abrupt noise like a door slamming (not a "pop"), just before we see the ugly Hyde's face in the mirror for the FIRST time, and some time before he can say any words.
*** My version (VHS video) is part of the "MGM/UA Great Books on Video" series." [Copyright] "Renewed 1968 [...] Package copyright 1985 MGM/UA."
-- Prof Steven P Hill, Cinema Studies, University of Illinois.

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Finally!!! Yes I have this scene on VHS (recorded from a German Private TV Station in the early 90ties) and I was wondering for more than a decade if I am the only one knowing of this scene! Like you say here on the board! Yes it is cut!! 100%!!! The conversation of Tracy in the Mirror is some 1 minute or more!
He (Dr.Jekyll) speaks with his evil image Dr.Hyde...! Hyde says: You wanted it! You wanted it! etc. and then Dr. Jekyll gets angry and hits the mirror and just after that there is a knocking on the door from the butler...! There is a pump and yes it jumps!! I have also seen the normal (cut)german version which is the same I got on US Laserdisc and US DVD! I always hoped there might be a longer european version...! I m sure that is not known by these younger people running the TV Stations and (or) movie archives!! Only an expert maybe can reveal this stuff sometime..But unfortunately I have no idea why this cut was made and a bad one it is...maybe just careless!!

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I can't understand why the ever cut that scene. I have never seen it in it's entiretity, but here is a portion of it, for those who want to see it.

http://www.classichorror.free-online.co.uk/jekylltxt.htm

It's down on the Tracy section of the page.

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I imagine it was cut because the Hays Code wouldn't allow it.

Josh

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