The Facts


How much of this movie is true ?

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I just edited and deleted everything I had written that supported the events in this movie as being true.

I recently came across info that refuted MOST of what I thought was true. I need to do more research before I come back here and post again.

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from what wikipedia says, and yes i DO realize that is a site like this one where the information isn't always correct. but it would not surprise me if people who love looking up Edison does add stuff on it and corrects the wrong information.

it doesn't say that is true, but it did say he was kicked off for experiments and that fire was true. i think it said? he was kicked off the train for bringing them on board. so i dunno if that is true or not but it may be. it doesn't bother me if it gave him a little sister, some stuff in it may not be correct. but at least most of it is. i dunno how true Edison, the man is either. but that's also a great film.

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Sounds better than Words and Music where Rooney played a nongay Lorenz Hart. I just watched WAM with the commentary which came down hard on MGM for the inaccuracies, errors, distortions, etc. Sounded like the only thing they right about Hart was his depression and alcoholism not to mention his music.

What was it Carleton Young said in "Liberty Vallance"? When the facts become legend, print the legend.

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This thread is about the film-"Young Tom Edison"? Im just wondering the validity of the 7 train being warned with Morse Code-has anyone found out if it did happen or was it a Hollywood ending?

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I just found a article from a Michigan publication out of Ann Arbor-Gleamings
A Hugh Davidson-who is a distant relative of Edison confirms the rail bridge story.
Who knows,he may just be recalling the movie.

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This TCM article on Young Tom Edison[/i] covers some of the details, http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article/353375%7C0/Young-Tom-Edison.html, including one I would have had to mention had the article not. Tom (as he was called in the movie, although his real-life nickname was Al), was actually not dismissed from school by a personal visit from the schoolmarm, but MGM just couldn't resist reworking the Almira Gulch scene from [i]The Wizard of Oz[/i], to the point that, when the teacher said she wanted to talk to the parents, I yelled, "And their little dog, too!" and expected her to at least stuff the family cat into a hamper.

I started to write that Edison was dismissed from school by a letter so cruel his mother had to lie about its contents, and an adult Edison was shocked when he came across the actual letter. (As a child he either couldn't read cursive or the letter was in a sealed envelope.) It seems this story, although touching, is entirely false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/thomas-edisons-mom-lied-about-a-letter-expelling-her-son-from-school/ Apparently the world "addled," used often in the 1940 movie, was actually applied to young Edison, who spent very little time in school and was out at a younger age than Rooney in the film. According to the source below, it was a schoolmaster calling Edison "addled" which caused his furious mother to remove him from school and teach him herself.

The TCM article implies the scene in which Tom rescued a three-year-old child from certain death on railroad tracks, and was rewarded by the child's father with help in his telegraph work, never happened, although this says it absolutely did. http://www.loc.gov/collections/static/edison-company-motion-pictures-and-sound-recordings/articles-and-essays/biography/life-of-thomas-alva-edison.html Also according to this, the grabbing by the ears to be lifted into a boxcar really happened,* but the boxing of the ears after the fire in the boxcar did not happen--the movie includes both and shows the doctor checking Tom's ears afterwards. The fire itself apparently did happen, as did Edison publishing a newspaper on a train rather than simply selling newspapers. The selling of candy and newspapers before he began publishing his own occurred in 1859 when Edison was only twelve.

Edison had two surviving sisters and one brother out of the original seven children of his parents. The oldest sister, Marion, was married when Edison was two and is not mentioned in the movie. The older brother named William is undoubtedly the "Bill" of the movie. The younger of the sisters was indeed nicknamed "Tannie," but she was fourteen years older than Thomas Edison, not four years younger. http://edison.rutgers.edu/famchron.htm She was married in 1855, while this movie starts no earlier than around 1861 (as Fort Sumter is mentioned early on), at which time Edison would have been fourteen years old. The movie portrays a couple of seasons passing and later he is mentioned as being sixteen years old. I was very afraid during the scene where the doctor needed light to operate on Edison's mother that the movie would have Tom invent the lightbulb 15 or 20 years early but there was no buildup to that breakthrough which reportedly took over 1,000 tries, so they resolved the issue another way.

Several major incidents, including the mother's operation and the spectacular climax, I am convinced did not happen, but don't want to post any spoilers of a thoroughly enjoyable movie. It's like that parody of a scene in [i]The Right Stuff[/i] in which an astronaut worries he has not had a very interesting life, and the [i]Life[/i] magazine reporter says, "Don't worry; we'll make your life so interesting, you'll wish you'd lived it!" Would definitely watch again.

*I knew that part was true, having been unable to forget a vivid illustration from the [i]Childcraft[/i] volume, [i]Great Men and Famous Deeds
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(Sorry italics are messed up; I did them absolutely according to instructions and checked several times!)

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If this movie portrays Edison as having invented anything, then it's a lie!

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Perhaps a bit harsh there. I don't know whether Edison actually invented anything but he made working versions of some products or ideas which someone else may have thought of but could not make practical.

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I exaggerated, but I do think Edison gets more credit than he deserves.

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Is it possible to admire both Edison and Nicola Tesla, or is that not done? Asking to further the progress of humanity.

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No, I want nothing to do with that whole nerd feud thing! But at least Tesla didn't try to claim other people's inventions for himself. He just wanted to hook up with birds (the animals, NOT women).

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