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Would've been better without James Stewart


I'm not a fan to begin with, but in this particular movie, I find his abrupt, brusque and halting delivery to be distracting from the rhythm of the entire rest of the cast and movie.

He's out of sync with everyone else. I understand about the character he's to play, his role, etc., but his pitch and bullish tone are so loud and obtrusive that I find it interrupts an otherwise almost perfect movie with an otherwise delightful cast.


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i don't agree. I like his character, and would actually have prefered him to end up with hepburn,

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Stewart won the Academy Award for best actor for this role. Does the OP realize this?

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Why should that make a difference when it comes to their opinion?

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Stewart helps make this movie the great classic that it is . . . he'd have to be in this film for it to balance out properly . . . I thought his delivery was excellent . . .

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I don't know about the other poster, but the OP is welcome to his opinion. I come not to criticize his opinion, but to bury it.

We don't get actors like General Stewart anymore. He picked up the acting bug while in college earning his degree in architecture. He was a truly educated person, not in the hand wavy sense of today's actors, but in a genuine intellectual skill.

I think he's a terrific actor and an exceptional leader. One can find performances that are likable and some that are not. It is difficult to find him in roles that he does not put out his best. I won't recount the reason that Wikipedia lists him first as a general in the United States Air Force and secondarily as an actor. We true fans know that story already.

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Stewart won the Academy Award for best actor for this role. Does the OP realize this?



Well, the Oscars aren't the word of God; they just represent how the Academy members voted.

Considering how little "The Philadelphia Story" demanded of James Stewart's abilities, his Oscar win has always been considered something of a head scratcher - though it was probably the Academy's way of compensating him for not recognizing his performance in "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington."

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Abrupt, brusque, and halting was the exact character needed for the role. I don't think we're supposed to particularly like him or identify with him.

I'm far from wealthy, have been jealous at times, but I've been at the homes of very wealthy people, I'd be an a-hole to behave like Mike did when he arrived at the mansion. As I'm older now, I cringe at his character's behavior, it somehow seemed more acceptable when I was a young punk.

He resented the upper class and felt no need to cozy up to them, that was one of the many things that makes this film so wonderful.

Most of the most hilarious, over-the-top scenes in the film played out to the audience of the naive and outspoken Mike and cynical Liz. Note the number of times Mike and Liz try to politely excuse themselves and are invited to stay.

But, actually, now that I think of it. Conrad Veigt totally disrupted the tone of the film Casablanca. He acted like a damned Nazi. I'd also throw in that Peter Lorre kind of creeped me out..

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I understand about the context, his approach to the upper class, etc. So I'm fine with the character's essence. But it's Stewart's delivery, not what he says but how he says it. He's just so blustery and boisterous and loud. I get that he's not one to relate to the rich.

But I'll admit I am just an all-round not a Stewart fan because in all of his movies he plays the same, with the same delivery. In every movie he's got this loud and obnoxious way of speaking.

So the position of his character makes a great deal of sense for the evolution of the plot, it would have been kinder to the ears to cast someone who did not feel the need to bellow his lines so haltingly.


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How would you have cast it differently?

For example, in the musical remake, Sinatra plays the Mike role quieter and more cynical, but then EVERYBODY in that film is half asleep.

I see the Stewart Mike's over-the-top loudness is intentional, it's a sort of hatred and a cover for his innate sense of inferiority.

That Philadelphia household was very boisterous already! The rant that Mike goes through when he arrives at the house is totally eclipsed by the outrageous Diana show...

Not trying to convince you, really, you admit you don't like Stewart.

I don't either, but it's because of his politics, not his acting and roles.

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It's a fair and good question, but thing is, I'm not sure how I'd have cast it if I was given an option. I think my thing with Stewart is that in every movie he's in he's always playing a loud and obnoxious blustering person. Diana's little ballet and piano still stayed subdued even though it was theatrical. There's something specific about Stewart's voice and delivery that rubs me the wrong way.

I can understand playing the character as a person who dislikes the privileged upper crust society, and can be snooty. But goodness, I can't seem to think of any better descriptive than boisterous and blustery. He seems to speak (throughout the whole movie) louder than everyone else, and, in another movie I recently saw, "Bell, Book and Candle," he does the same thing (even over the top compared to Jack Lemmon's bongo playing craziness, which is surprising).

Perhaps it is simply my dislike of Stewart's acting style in every movie I've seen him in that just adds to this. I'm not sure.

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well, that's going to describe most of his best known films from that era, Mr Smith goes to Washington, It's a Wonderful Life, even Made for Each Other, but he has his quieter films, Harvey, Destry Rides again, and Pot of Gold.

We all got our likes and dislikes, some ppl rub us the wrong way!

For me, I can't watch Kevin Costner! yuk!

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I think that's more of what it is.

And by the way, I'm right there with you. Something about Kevin Costner rubs me the wrong way too. I've only seen glimpses of movies he's been in (the only one I watched all the way through was Waterworld, and, well, uh, yeah....).

I never got the hoopla about him either. But yes you are right. No one can please everyone, and sometimes it's just the little things, like pitch, cadence, delivery, etc. C'est la vie.


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I agree with you about the mismatch of Jimmy and the rest of the movie. However I would keep Jimmy's performance and change the rest of the movie, cause his performance is my favourite part

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I'm a big Stewart fan (and love him in this) but interestingly even he thought his performance was undeserving of the Oscar.

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