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Substitute Trump every time you hear Hitler


Today is the first time I've seen this movie and I'm getting chills to how relevant it is to this years election. I am actually afraid for America. Those who do not know history are destined to repeat it.

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True.
Love is what the Trumps hate
to spin a phrase.
Nationalists are not Patriots.

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Thinking the exact same thing.

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Strange..
I feel the same..except I substituted the name CLINTON.
IT IS HER FOLLOWERS RIOTING AND BURNING AND ASSAULTING..NOT TRUMPS.

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I'll give you that. But you have to understand why. They are very afraid of losing their civil rights and the nation being lead down a path of pollution and nuclear destruction. Clinton only wanted to help the poor have a better life not bully everyone who is not like them in appearance and thought. I think I would protest too. In fact I am doing my protesting part by posting my thoughts here. And, please, stop shouting. Caps are not needed.

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CLINTON and her cohorts had many years to help the poor..but our inner cities are cesspools..the racial divide is wider than ever..factories every where I look are closed..young people can't afford to have a home of their own..the list goes on..
Enough talk.we need someone who will Do Something.
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And you have proof this is Clinton's and us liberals fault? Remember Obama had to deal with a do nothing GOP led congress for 8 years.

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..Years ago..the Democrats were the party of the working class..the people who keep this country going..
These people have lost hope..
They are white..and black ..and every ethnicity.
They need help...not to be belittled in the media as less than.
They spoke loud and clear last Tuesday.

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They spoke loud and clear ... for Clinton. She won the popular vote. More people voted for Clinton than Trump.

Sorry to rock the gloat.

Janet! Donkeys!

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tseybert says > They spoke loud and clear ... for Clinton. She won the popular vote. More people voted for Clinton than Trump. Sorry to rock the gloat.
I know how happy Hillary supporters are to have something to hold on to; something you can claim she 'won' even though you know full well she lost. Sure she got more individual votes but she still lost the election. Relating it to the movie, it would be like saying Freya made it to Australia so she should have been okay. Well, unfortunately she wasn't and most of us know in real life, even if she had lived, Australia was already under Nazi control so that wouldn't have saved her either.

Anyway, only losers, and bad ones at that, try to change the rules after the game or point to stats that don't make any difference whatsoever. Maybe some of you didn't know how the election process works but it changes nothing. What's worse is it makes you look like you haven't cared enough about your own country to know how we do things. Does that now give you the right to whine and complain? It does not! Ignorance of the law is never a defense.

As Trump said, if the election were based on popular vote, he would have conducted his campaign differently. Give the man some credit. He worked hard for what he got as he will work hard for us. Hillary behaved as arrogantly as Obama has and would have done the same in office. She felt entitled and at many points phoned it in. She spent her time trying to tear down her opponent rather than trying to connect with the voters. That's what mattered. She got all those votes from people who voted for a woman just because she's a woman or because their vote is on automatic pilot.

Yes, she won almost three million more votes but we all know that's because the population density of some states is greater than in others. All our states matter and even though they all were not part of the union at the time, our founding fathers made sure that they too would have a voice.

On a personal note, I'm actually happy every time I hear someone saying, 'well, she won the popular vote.' To me, it's like pouring salt in the wound. It must really suck to be her and know when it comes down to it, she may choose to blame others but it's her own fault she lost!


Woman, man! That's the way it should be Tarzan. [Tarzan and his mate]

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Love one another.
Progress is the Miracle:

Inscription on the Statue of Liberty"~
Give me your tired, your poor, 
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free, 
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, 
Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

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It's so hard to be upbeat now. I think about all the things Donald J. Trump has done and said for as long as he's been on this Earth and still the Electorate College will hand him the keys to America. God help us all. Everyone. Even venustra00.

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It's not politically correct to bring up the popular vote. It makes the Trump gloaters, er, voters, sad. They'll call you a "whiner" and a "sore loser and say you are "unhinged" and use numerous other synonyms for "disagreed with a conservative."

Somehow, it isn't convincing me that they aren't a pack of immature racist bullies led by a shrieking man-baby.

Janet! Donkeys!

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UAF-Nanooks says > the Electorate College will hand him the keys to America
No one 'handed' Trump anything. By now you must know the attempts to steal the election by threatening Electors has failed miserably. Hillary ended up having more defectors than Trump. All this keeps backfiring so give it up.

Besides, Republicans are generally not into getting handouts. We like to earn our own way. Hillary is the one who behaved as if she was entitled to be President and certain groups like women, minorities, residents of certain states, etc. owed her their support and their votes.

In the movie, that's what the Nazis did. They stopped using their own judgment and followed the party's position; down to abandoning their family and firing on a former fiancée and lifelong friend.


Woman, man! That's the way it should be Tarzan. [Tarzan and his mate]

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You REALLY think Herr drumpf with your Make America Great hats and all his clothing line made overseas will bring any manufacturing jobs back? You really think he actually cares? You're in for a very rude awakening...

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George Clooney & Elizabeth Warren 2020.

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jollydrama says > George Clooney & Elizabeth Warren 2020.
So people complain about Trump, who has years of experience being as an Executive, but you somehow thing George Clooney and Elizabeth Warren are qualified? That's unbelievable! No wonder some people think this is just a popularity contest.

Ronald Reagan was an actor but he had successfully held many Executive positions including Governor of California before becoming President. Clooney may be able to act but how does that prepare him for such a job?

Speaking out on social issues doesn't do the trick. Wow, he's almost as bad as Obama in terms of lacking experience. Obama just had a clipboard and knocked on doors then suddenly he's in government. Let's not even talk about Elizabeth Warren. No, actually let's talk about her. What the hell is she able to do other than talk? The woman can't even figure out what the heck she is. Seriously!


Woman, man! That's the way it should be Tarzan. [Tarzan and his mate]

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You mean aside from the dozens of hate crimes against minorities reported since the election? I know your favorite news sources are ignoring this. Maybe you should consider something a little more fair and balanced.

Janet! Donkeys!

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Considering that it's been proven that Clinton is in the pocket of a known nazi sympathizer (soros), who also, it has been proven, has funded the current protesting, I don't think your statement holds any water.

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Another Trump toadie. I call them Ditto Heads (stolen' from Limburger) 'cause they repeat anything they hear without studying the subject. Sorry. Try again.

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Ok, snowflake, what ever makes you feel better about supporting a criminal.
Go ahead and flame away. Don't bother doing your own research. Piss, moan and complain rather than insisting that the political parties back worthy candidates.
Btw, I don't listen to Limbaugh and I've voted for Democrats in the past.

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Sorry, Wrong again and spoken in the true tRumster rant and rave. Clinton was and always will be 100% better than tRump and his family. One of your main problems is you do not listen to Limburger. I listen to all news including other countries. You live in your little world and do not compare news stories. Go read a little history and take in a variety of news and we will have a proper discussion. I hate talking to a brick wall. Or should I say a fence here and there. LOL LOL LOL LMAO And so it begins. The broken promises are rolling in.

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UAF-Nanooks says > Clinton was and always will be 100% better than tRump and his family.
No wonder you're laughing so hard. I would too if I'd just written something so completely ridiculous. Hillary apparently had book smarts; I say apparently because it's questionable. She fit into the mold of the time so people gave her more credit than she deserved.

That same impression followed her into life because even though everything she touched turned to rot people still kept giving her credit. She rode in on her husband's coattails then was elected due to the sympathy some people felt for her. Even if she had been good in her various roles, she still lacked true Executive experience.

A lot of the things she said during the campaign showed she didn't have a clue. She as much as said her husband would play a role. That's some great female role model for our daughters. She's going to rely on hubby to prop her up. Pathetic!

In the movie, Freya was being rescued but as the Nazis guessed she held up Martin. She wanted to exchange 'I love you's instead of getting on the road sooner. Hillary, at one point, was so damned smug, she stopped campaigning for herself and started stumping for down ballot candidates. Talk about ridiculous! She didn't help herself or them either.

And so it begins. The broken promises are rolling in.
This is another comment I keep hearing. Why would the people who are against Trump care if he breaks his promises? I thought you guys were against everything he stands for and supports? Apparently, you'd rather have drug dealers, terrorists and illegal aliens flooding into the country through unsafe borders than to see Trump succeed. Is that what you call loving your country?


Woman, man! That's the way it should be Tarzan. [Tarzan and his mate]

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Well, I've got to admit. This doesn't convince me that Trump and his supporters aren't a pack of immature bullies.

Janet! Donkeys!

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"Repeated over and over by angry shouty red-faced men" is not the same as "proven." What's your source? (I know it's not politically correct to ask a conservative for a source, but I thought I'd give it a try.)

And to be even more politically incorrect, here's a few facts: He's Jewish, and he was 15 years old when World War II ended. Your statement is awfully close to hate speech. Which gives me a good idea who you voted for on Tuesday.

Janet! Donkeys!

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Repeating things over and over by "angry red-faced" people is out of the "progressive" playbook as seen by the recently staged riots and the cnn election coverage.

His religion has nothing to do with it, especially if money is more important to him than his religion.

Age has nothing to do with it either.

Accusing me of "hate speech" is a tactic often used by "progressives" on people who disagree with them. "Progressives" say they are open to other view points but are shocked and appalled that there are any.

You would be surprised as to my voting history.


Have a wonderful day, snowflake.

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I can't help but notice that you've still not provided a source. And you're still trying to tell us that a 14-year-old Jewish boy was a Nazi collaborator.

Um, I watch CNN quite a bit, so my opinion that they leaned towards Trump is based on my own eyes and ears. I don't see what the protests have to do with your George Soros fantasies.

I didn't say anything about your voting history except for the last election. I said I could guess who you voted for on Tuesday. I'm guessing Trump. You didn't deny it.

And you'll notice (or not) I said "close to hate speech" to give you a chance to calm down and walk it back a bit. It was a vain hope.

Janet! Donkeys!

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Below, I've added a comment about Soros. Thanks for setting me straight on that issue.

I watched CNN that night, so I'm not sure what you were watching. I saw nothing but hand wringing, anger and watery eyes.

My vote was not so much for Trump but a vote against Clinton. I won't debate that issue as the election is over.

As for my voting history, I've voted Democrat on may occasions, including twice for Bill Clinton. There was even a pro Obama as well.

Also, the threat of labeling my comments as hate speech can be seen as an unfair attempt at silencing opinions that don't coincide with yours.




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@tseybert - It's common knowledge that George Soros funds Protests of every type throughout the US and other significant locals around the World!

For the Post Election, Anti-Trump Protests turned Riots, Soros recruited participants from Craigslist for $15/hr. That explains why on?scene reporters could not get a straight answer as to WHAT they were Protesting. And why they took off when asked if they VOTED!

Here's a link to one article. THERE ARE MANY MORE!
I can't make it clickable from my device, but you can Copy/Paste or perhaps someone can make it clickable?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/heres-proof-soros-money-funding-anti-trump-leftist-protest-riots/

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But you're right. I'm not open-minded enough to accept the idea that a 14-year-old Jewish boy was a Nazi collaborator without some evidence more credible than the word of an Internet sophist who is so consumed by rage that he ignores the horrors of World War II and the anti-Semitism of the Nazi regime, and glibly accuses a Jewish boy of selling his people out to the Nazis because he was greedy.

Fair enough?

Janet! Donkeys!

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For the record, here's an article on the disgusting right-wing smear that Soros was a Nazi collaborator.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/09/20/toronto-sun-corrects-soros-nazi-smear/170877

You can see my source right there. And the readers can decide for themselves if it's hate speech to say that a Jewish teenager was a Nazi collaborator because he loved money so much.

It looks to me like he wanted to survive the Holocaust.

Consider this a missive from the SNOWFLAKE REPORT.

Janet! Donkeys!

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Ok, after due diligence and additional research, I retract my Nazi comments about Soros. My apologies to any I might have offended.

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Thank you. Now if only Donald J Trump could do the same thing with such humbleness. But then he would be apologizing all the time. I guess his blanket apology once a week to those who he may have offended will have to do.

Thank you once again, asguy1.

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When do I get mine from her?

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UAF-Nanooks says > Today is the first time I've seen this movie and I'm getting chills to how relevant it is to this years election. I am actually afraid for America. Those who do not know history are destined to repeat it.
Your comments were written just days after the election so I have to assume you were still experiencing feelings of shock and disappointment. That, obviously, clouded your judgment.

I just saw the movie for the first time yesterday. What I saw was entirely different. Granted I am a Trump supporter. I voted for him and was overjoyed that he won so I have my own biases but I can be objective too.

1. That immediate and mindless following of Hitler by the youth reminded me of Obama's supporters. After he was elected there was a lot of that going on. Even today, it's not tolerated for anyone to say anything against him or his policies. That racist word is thrown around as a defense.

2. The intolerance hasn't come from the bulk of Trump supporters. I admit there are a few nuts who may have behaved badly but as we now know a lot of the reported incidents of harassment and crime were actually perpetrated by non-Trump supporters in an attempt to make us look bad.

3. As the Nazis abandoned their long time friendships and familial relationships, so too have a lot of non-Trump supporters refused to associate with Trump supporters. It's not the other way around. There have been some real shifts in families; broken relationships; divorces, etc.

4. The people out protesting, rioting and burning people in effigy were not Trump supporters but Hillary supporters or non-Trump people. Many of us have had to celebrate in private because anyone publicly supporting Trump has been the victim of attacks and boycotts including his own daughter. The Nazi students boycotted Professor Roth's class in protest of his views and his refusal to toe the party line. Other people are fearful of associating with Trump publicly in any way; like performing at the inauguration, dressing his wife, etc. because they fear the backlash they know they will face by the vindictive Left.

5. Hitler hated the Jews because he was jealous of their success. He blamed them for Germany's problems. That's straight out of the Democrat/Liberal playbook. They always try to create race and class problems between groups to keep them apart. Oddly, success is frowned upon and we're constantly told it's the rich who are to blame when really it's the disastrous policies of the Left.

6. Hillary supporters are the ones who insist on seeing things only their way. In the movie the Nazis persecute Professor Roth because he dared to go against Nazi widely held beliefs. It reminded me of climate change advocates who refuse to consider any opinion other than their own. The Hillary supporters also keep bringing up how many popular votes she 'won' even though it has nothing to do with how we elect Presidents in this country. They completely ignore the fact Trump won more states and had a significant Electoral College win. Delusional would describe their way of thinking.

7. By their own admission, Hillary supporters were fearful and uneasy. That describes the Nazi mentality. The Nazis were in fear of alternate viewpoints and did anything to silence their opponents. The only thing they had against Freya, her father and Martin was their refusal to embrace and follow the Nazi ideology. Did any of them deserve death for their 'crimes'?

8. The Nazis murdered millions of Jews and others they felt were undesirable. They wanted a pure race. This has nothing to do with Trump or his supporters. Trump simply wants to enforce the laws that already exist. He wants to do a better job preventing people from coming into the country who seek to break our laws and harm Americans. He wants to remove those who have shown by their actions that they do not respect our laws. No one is attempting to wipe out groups of people. That only exists in the sick minds of those who will do just about anything to demonize the person they did not want to win.

9. I saved the best for last. All the people claiming to be in fear and worrying about Trump being another Hitler don't really believe it themselves. That's obvious because he is now the President-Elect and that hasn't stopped any of you from publicly and loudly voicing your disapproval. That would not be tolerated under Hitler and you know it. It's time to stop playing games and just admit all this so-called fear and concern about Trump's win is just sour grapes.

Things did not turn out the way you wanted and you're upset. I get it but it's gone too far and gone on too long. I know how it feels, I wasn't happy when Obama was elected and I would have been upset if Hillary won but I wouldn't have carried on the way the other side has; most of us would not have. You've had your tantrums now move on.

There's no real fear, it's simply histrionics. Every time I saw someone out protesting and claiming to be in fear I laughed. Let's be honest, the Nazis would have taken swift action to shut them up and ship them off to detention camps or worse. People who are actually in fear, go into hiding and/or attempt to leave the country like Professor Werner in the movie. If they truly believe they're in danger or the country is going off the rails, they do not demand to stay.


Woman, man! That's the way it should be Tarzan. [Tarzan and his mate]

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