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Where did Lloyd Corrigan come from, and go ?


I caught this flick, again, recently on TCM, and once again Lloyd Corrigan's character vexed me. He steps in out of the blue, saving Richard Carlson from a brawl with Anthony Quinn over Paulette Goddard. Okay, a mini-plot point. But, later his character seems to be set up for further development when he, Quinn, and the local talent, Dolores, are having a drink. Quinn notices Paulette leaving and excuses himself. Dolores tries to follow but is restrained by Corrigan. He has the look on his face of one who knows much about the goings on here, but, it's the last we see of him. It just seems that his character should show up later and explain everthing that's happened. (Carlson and Quinn are the ones who actually do.) Anyone have any scoop on this ? Missing scenes, plot, character, etc.
BTW, like many character actors of the 30s and 40s, Lloyd Corrigan had a long carrier in television of the 50s and 60s. Even as a regular on a series or two.

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I've thought about this mysterious character for a long time. He seems to have no place in the story. But I've come to the conclusion that he was in league with Geoff (Richard Carlson) and Parada (who was in fact in cahoots with Geoff but double-crossed him, as pointed out by Geoff at the end). I believe his (Martin's) role was to attempt to scare off Mary Carter by running into her and spooking her, so she would abandon the idea of investigating Black Island and possibly thwart Geoff Montgomery's plan to exploit the vein of silver he discovered. Notice he even calls her by name about the third time he 'bumps' into her; how would he know her name, except through Geoff. There are a few plot 'holes' in this movie, such as the Cuban native listening outside Mary Carter's stateroom - and then being confronted by Geoff. This guy would have no outside connection with this affair (at least as revealed anywhere), so he must have been in league with Geoff also ... so why the confrontation, where no one would see it: except of course to throw off the viewer. Martin (Lloyd Corrigan) and Delores, being on Geoff's side, would intervene when Francisco Mederes (Quinn) tried to involve himself too much, as he could cause complications for Geoff's machinations (consisting mostly of keeping Mary away from the castle), even to causing to her want to investigate the castle even more, which is what the bad guys DON'T want.
(Added later) After watching this movie again, noticed something I forget to mention, re 'leagueees': Ramon Mederes was in league also with Geoff and apparently 'doublecrossed' him the same as Prada, as revealed at the end by Geoff. This doublecross I'm not too sure about, my hunch is those two were each trying to do an end-around by themselves and cut out Geoff. Prada's 'offer' of $50,000 would have been himself offering, that's why he was not at liberty to reveal the name. I believe Ramon Mederes was trying to hatch the same egg, with a different figure. And another twist, like a pretzel - Ramon Mederes cottons onto Prada's scheme, how, we'll never know, but after the gunfight at the not-so-ok corral, exit R.D. Then I think Prada followed Mary C. to maybe actually protect her from Geoff, but guess what? Exit Prada.

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Thank you for pointing out that Martin, (Lloyd Corrigan) had appeared earlier in the film. I must have missed that this time around, but, I do recall it now from previous viewings. There do seem to be a few more loose ends, that you've pointed out. However, your explanation of Martin's place in the plot, does make the story work. Like William Powell said in the first Thin Man movie,'That's the only way it makes any sense'.

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This is a Bob Hope movie. Who says it has to make sense? It only has to be funny!

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Well it wasn't that funny. Bob Hope's humor doesn't really click with me, but I do like the movie because of the atmosphere and the lovely Paulette Goddard.

Poorly Lived and Poorly Died, Poorly Buried and No One Cried

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I'm having the same issue with this character (Lloyd Corrigan). I was trying to figure out if he was working for Geoff or one of the Mederes brothers. Was he (Lloyd) the one the dropped the bucket that just missed Mary and Larry on the boat. As Larry ran up the stairs, the "unknown" assailant runs to the left of the screen and down some stairs. As that chase cuts away back to Mary on the deck, Marty (Lloyd) is running around the corner (as if coming off the stairs) and "bumps" into Mary. Or was that Geoff....or Parada?
I bought the DVD a few years ago and watched it many times before, but this past week I've rewatched it several times to try to come to the same conclusions that you and the OP are wondering. LOVED the movie. Now I gotta get "The Cat and The Canary". Both of these are great for a Halloween marathon, along with Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (monster,that is) and " " Meet the Mummy. Great Fun!!!

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It is really irritating when the credits give the name of someone who is never named in the movie. We are told in the credits that Lloyd Corrigan plays "Martin" -- but Martin is never named in the film! We see the character, but no one ever addresses him by name. Since the name is actually in the film credits, we have to call him "Martin" -- but someone who didn't know what Lloyd Corrigan looked like would never be able to pick out "Martin" without that knowledge. Regarding the other plot points, I think that some of the plotting is sloppy and probably there are some deliberate red herrings. For example, the creepy character outside the hotel room challenged by Geoff -- that is a red herring, purely to fool the viewer. "Martin" himself may be a red herring; we don't know for *sure* that he is part of Geoff's gang. For one thing, if he is, why doesn't Geoff bring him out to the island to help (since Geoff obviously knows Hope and others are going there? And why isn't the creepy character outside the hotel room brought out to the island to stand guard as well, if he's part of Geoff's gang?

At one point Geoff gets a phone call; presumably that is Parada, telling him that Hope is planning to go out to the island early. (Parada is the only person Hope has told.) So at that point in the plot, Parada is still working with Geoff. What turns him against Geoff? I'm guessing it is Mary. Parada is willing to try to scare off Mary, and to offer her money (on his and Geoff's behalf) for the castle; but he doesn't want to see the girl murdered. That's why he betrays Geoff in the end. But even there some things aren't clear. He hasn't yet betrayed Geoff when he (Parada) is killed; so who killed him? Geoff, or Anthony Quinn's character, who is also skulking around the castle? At what point does Geoff decide that Parada is working against him? None of this is clear; nor is it clear what the two Quinn brothers were up to. Geoff's words at the end could mean that the first Quinn was originally on his side, and then betrayed him; but they might not; the betrayal may be only Parada's; Quinn may have been just an obstacle, perhaps an agent for the Cuban government or the like.

The relationship between the voodoo woman and the bad guys is not clear. Is she watching the castle for the bad guys? Or for the return of the true heir? If the latter, when she sends in the zombie to grab the girl, is that to protect the girl from the bad guys, because she looks so much like her ancestor, rather than to harm her? Maybe; we will never know. Certainly the zombie seems to defer to Mary when she looks like her ancestor; this suggests that the zombie and woman's allegiance is to the heirs of the house, not the crooks. Finally, why does the voodoo mother scream when she does? There's nothing scary about Hope in the scene. Is it because she can't find her zombie son, and assumed he has come to harm? A scream seems a melodramatic reaction when all she wants to know is where her son is; and she doesn't seem like the type of woman to scream. We don't know; but Hope seems to assume she's worried about her zombie boy, as he gives her directions to the son.

It's also never resolved whether the Cuban consul in New York is in on the gang; it looks as if (though his arm is concealed by furniture) he tugs on the pant leg of Parada to tell him to shut up about who is offering the money; that suggests he is in on it. But that may be another deliberate misdirection, totally unmotivated by the plot or character.

I don't like it when mystery stories deliberately mislead the viewer. Ambiguous looks and unexplained exits are fair game, but not deliberate misleading.

Hold That Ghost has similar plot flaws -- but in that case the special features on the DVD tell us that some explanatory scenes were filmed, then cut. Was that the case in this film as well? That would explain much. But why, when one would need only 5 or 10 minutes more at most to clear up loose ends, would the filmmakers be so stingy? Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein is better than either of these, because the plot entirely coheres. Still, Ghost Breakers has many enjoyable moments. The quick ending is weak, with a sort of comic deus ex machina, but the castle is well-done for spookiness, and the plot twist that lands Hope in the mess in the first place (running from the gangsters) is clever.

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Luckily, The Ghost Breakers is based on a play, which has several movie adaptations besides the Bob Hope one. Maybe the obscure plot points can be cleared up somewhere else. Not that I minded the convoluted plotting.


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He was probably just a red herring.

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I just noticed, the basis of my original question is cited in the IMDB trivia for this movie under spoilers. I don't recall seeing that before. Apparently Lloyd Corrigan has intrigued quite a few people.

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i came here wondering about him as well. is he not also the one who brings Paulette Goddard to the island? it sure looked like him in the boat that she jumped out of. it's only a glimpse, and i returned it before i had a chance to double-check.

"I'll do the masterminding around here." -Sgt. Stryker, "Sands of Iwo Jima"

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I'm a big Lloyd Corrigan fan from all his appearances in some of my favorite movies. My guess as to his mysterious character is that he was supposed to play a larger role in the script but they edited down his character to where it was almost eliminated. They may have kept him in only because of the scene where he pulls Anthony Quinn away from Paulette's table in Cuba.

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