Crazy,Bitchy wife


That Duchess was a total bitch! Who dosen't care about her kids! I know I should not take this seriously ^^;
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I blame the Duc. He hadn't serviced her engine for over four years. She was evidently a woman who needed a whole lotta work done under the bonnet.

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Jason_Radley said
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I blame the Duc. He hadn't serviced her engine for over four years. She was evidently a woman who needed a whole lotta work done under the bonnet.
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Uh...I thought she was suffocating him with too much love. Sorry for the late reply
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Yes, you are correct in the sense that an obsessive love is not an attractive kind of love, and although in real life the Duc was perhaps not as innocent in the disintegration of the marriage as portrayed in the movie, one can hardly blame him for having chosen his own space above sharing the marital bed in their later years. Initially the marriage was a very happy one - in real life they had 10 kids.

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Haha yes, I know, the number of kids is not a measurement of marital bliss. If so, then I'd have to point to myself as being extremely unhappy!

I was only pointing out the obvious: things change over time. Some unions start happy and remain happy (which I think must be enormously difficult to achieve). Others start happy and turn sour. I think it's an educated guess to say that this case probably belongs to the latter.

Liked your "excruciating agony" reference!

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Yes, it was a happy, and certainly a sexual marriage for the first several years. They were a beautiful couple, and married impulsively when they were both very young. Nobody really knows precisely how the marriage turned ugly, but it seems to have happened surprisingly suddenly after the birth of their last baby. The Duchesse wasn't a beauty anymore by the end (she'd put on some pounds over years of successive childbirth, and when things became emotionally strained it wore on her face and complexion), but the suddenness with which he started to repel her raises many unanswered questions.

Stanley Loomis' A Crime of Passion, the best account of the story I know of, suggests multiple hypotheses, as far reaching as the Duchesse being a potential lesbian or even that she committed incest with the children. None of this has been, or can be confirmed, and I doubt if the truth was anything so David Lynch-esque. But some contemporary documents suggest improprieties between the Duchess and one or two governesses, and the Duke's and his older daughters' letters refer cryptically to "infamies" between she and the male children. For whatever reason, he did see fit to restrict her interaction with the children.

I suspect that she was suffering a kind of post-partum depression that made her feel alienated from the children, and the lack of sympathy between them was perceived as repulsive and unwomanly by the Duke (who was influenced by idealized standards of femininity of the time). He stopped sleeping with her, she felt neglected, she compensated by suffocating him, and from there things escalated until they were completely out of control. Several of the ugly episodes in the movie seem lifted directly from the Duchesses desperate, imploring letters...others were far more dramatic in real life. On one occasion he went into her bedrooms and cooly, systematically crushed each of her parasols between his hands as she pleaded hysterically. Her mental issues go without saying, but frankly, the Duke's combination of coldness and cruelty come across as psychopathic through a modern lens. The nature of the crime, premeditated calculation coupled with violent rage, attest to that.

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Excellent, thanks so much for the well-presented information. Yes, nowt as queer as folk, and it's always difficult (read: impossible) to gauge the emotions that others experience. I firmly believe people always have reasons for the things they do - even though those reasons may appear dark or incomprehensible to others. I cannot imagine what life would have been like under this particular roof.

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In the movie, the Duke says something similar to he would talk all night with her if it didn't end the same way...which I took to mean crazy. She seemed able to turn her emotions on a dime which would indicate being bi-polar. Cloying, suffocating, distant from the children, and too close to him....these seem to indicate some mental illness, maybe schitzophrenia.

It seems he could have had her committed if he wanted to a "hospital". Even if her father objected, he'd have plenty of evidence.

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