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Olivier and Oberon really hated each other.


There's no denying this. There's lots of rumours about them not getting along. Read about some of their incidents.
Olivier was just starting off as a film actor and wasn't very good back then. All the moments they are together, you can tell they are just acting and you can see their eyes looking off cue-cards. Both Olivier and Oberon are electrifying in scenes by themselves, not together. Well, Olivier was awesome in the death scene, so he gets some redemption there.

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William Wyler was said to have been a task master...even back in 1939-so,I don't see him accepting his two leads reading from cue cards.
TCM's Ben Mankewitz relates a fact from filming-stating Wyler put David Niven through 40 takes of his first scene.Wyler wouldn't let them get away with such mediocre.
I don't doubt Olivier's dislike for Oberon.Im sure it was mutual.It probably had more to do with Olivier's wife Vivien Leigh,not getting the role of Catherine.The same happend on the set of "Rebecca". Olivier did not get along with co star,Joan Fontaine -who beat out Leigh for the role of Mrs.DeWinter.

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Oliver and Oberon had worked together just the year before in an Alexander Korda produced comedy The Divorce of Lady X and had apparently got along fine. But, when it came to Wuthering Heights problems arose between them. Olivier had wanted Vivien Leigh to play the part of Cathy and was apparently very unhappy Oberon was playing the role instead. This was probably exacerbated by Wyler's gruelling shooting style and that Goldwyn, at least initially, seems to have been in the frame of mind that Wuthering Heights would be a star vehicle for Oberon, which allegedly frustrated Olivier. This supposedly led to a couple of very unpleasant moments on set. However, Louise Brooks wrote in her biography Lulu in Hollywood that she watched Oliver and Oberon dance together at a Hollywood party some years later and Oberon did speak highly of Oliver when she talked about the films years later also, although interestingly she admitted that everyone had suffered from Oliver's 'growing pains' going from a stage to screen actor. But, it seems whatever went on between them, they put it behind them.

Their relationship doesn't seem to have been nearly as bad as Olivier's relationship with Joan Fontaine while filming Rebecca. Once again, Olivier had wanted Leigh for the role and resented Fontaine as a result. Something Hitchcock encouraged because he wanted Fontaine to feel as isolated as possible, juts like the 2nd Mrs De Winter. Fontaine had such bad time with Olivier that late in her life she would admit that of all her leading men, she liked him the least.

I have to say I can understand putting Leigh forward for Cathy, she no doubt would have excelled in that part (although, of course, in the end she ended up with an even greater role), but, Leigh is completely wrong for the 2nd Mrs De Winters, as her screen test for it shows (available on YouTube). Fontaine was so obviously made for that part. Olivier's campaign for Leigh in that case seems bizarre to me,

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What ever the case may be, they made an excellent film.

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That's totally right. It is a good film. The notion of the actors reading their lines from cue cards is ridiculous. I think Vivien Leigh would have made a wonderful Cathy, but Merle Oberon was just fine as well.

As always I'm grateful to TCM for showing it. I've seen so many fantastic older movies on TCM, movies that I never would have seen or heard of otherwise.

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I love Olivier's work usually but he's barely decent in here. Oberon steals the show quietly without being amazing either.

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Many times in movies when the leading man and lady despise one another that makes for the best onscreen chemistry.

Debra Winger and Richard Gere in An Officer and a Gentleman also immediately come to mind.












Don't f@ck with me fellas! This aint my first time at the rodeo.

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Actors don't have to like each other for a film to work. It's called acting. It's a job. Sometimes loving couples make a film together that doesn't work at all. C'est Le cinéma.

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