The Character of Ygor


This may be sort of an odd question, but I've been wondering this for awhile. I always thought Ygor appeared in Frankenstein, and then was surprised he doesn't show up until Son of Frankenstein. Ygor (or more commonly spelled Igor) is the most mentioned "hunchbacked assistant" in movies/books about Frankenstein, but he was not even in the original novel. Why, do you think, did he become more popular than say Fritz (from Frankenstein) or Ludwig (Bride of Frankenstein), or any other "hunchbacked assistant"? Do you think it's because he was played by a well known actor, Bela Lugosi, or that he had the most interesting story, or what?

And one more thing in regards to this. If Ygor was invented by Universal, how did so many people get away with using the character (or a very similar character) in their movies/books? I've heard that you can't use the likeness of the Universal Monsters, because they're trademarked, so I was just curious about all of this. Thanks to anyone who replies.

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The only thing I can do is to venture a guess that Universal simply chose not to go after the people who used the Igor character. Actually many have used the Universal monsters, too, and Universal has chosen to remain silent.

Of course, it's more likely that those who have used the Igor character and the monsters obtained permission from Universal.

I'm a short story writer, and have thought about writing a short story about the monster. I know that I could use Mary Shelley's monster because it is now in the public domain. But I wanted to describe the monster most familiar to today's generation--the electrodes-in-the-neck monster. But I've been reluctant because of Universal's trademark.

Of course, I could create my own version, I suppose.

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Universal copyright on the monster make-up ran out in, like, 1950.

We can't stop here! This is Bat-country!

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thats not true the universal contract is renewed every 5 years to keep it safe

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Yes, it should be criminal to sit on a copyright for a item that has became part of our culture. and yet instead of our libraries being enriched and culture spread to people, those same culture soaked money-grubbers (this case mainly mickey mouse copyright owners) can push down laws that longer copyright term and allows pretty much unlimited renewal.

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Dear moonstorm4,
Bela Lugosi's character of the evil,broken-necked,bodysnatching Ygor was made important by the film's director-Rowland V.Lee.Originally Lugosi was to have a much more minor role as a police officer,however Lugosi had finally realized that playing a heavily made up monster was beneficial to his career instead of the positions that he had previously taken where he had refused to wear heavy makeup that was to be applied by the makeup Wizard -Jack Pierce.
Mr. Lugosi is so good in Son Of Frankenstein(1939) as Ygor that he's given billing above this film's title.Lugosi's Ygor is a much more memorable assistant to Basil Rathbone's son(Wolf).Also this is (in my opinion)the best teaming of Boris Karloff as the Frankenstein Monster with Bela Lugosi as evil
Ygor...many people consider this Mr.Lugosi's best performance.I believe it is his best performance as well.He and Mr.Karloff seem like they really are best friends in this film which is considered a classic in so many ways!
Also, there have been numerous satirical versions of mad doctors with demented assistants named Igor but most have played using a Peter Lorre like voice,besides Universal can't own the rights to the name Ygor and the variations on the way it can be spelled or the ways a mad doctor's assistant can be played.
This classic film was just so Good that it created alot of firsts for the Universal Classics.
To Better Days,
BRAD

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An alternate suggestion is that Igor (pronounced 'eye-gore') also happened to be the name of the monster in 1933's Mystery of the Wax Museum.

MOTWM also made a sly reference to Frankenstein in one bit of dialogue when the reporter says "I don't know what it was, but it made Frankenstein look like a lily!"

It's entirely possible that audience remembered the name and used it generically or perhaps telescoped and transposed names and characters.

"If you don't know the answer -change the question."

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Dear bok602,
This writer has seen The Mystery Of The Wax Museum(1933)
and that character's name is Igor(pronounced ee-gore)
in this classic film which stars Lionel Atwill and Fay Wray.
Mr.Atwill has some of the best makeup in the history of Chiller cinema.
Atwill's damaged face literally looks like a burnt walnut.
To Better Days,
BRAD

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I must beg to differ, the character's name in MOTWM is pronounced "eye-gore" consistantly throughout the film. Lugosi's character in Son of Frankenstein is pronounced "ee-gore."

Given all this name play, it may also have been a sly wink in Young Frankenstein to have Marty Feldman's character insist his name was pronounced "eye-gore."

"If you don't know the name -change the pronounciation."

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Dear bok602,
This writer continues to disagree with you about the pronunciation.
I will stand by the pronunciation as (EE-GOR)spelled Igor.
If I find that I'm wrong then I'll e-mail you back and let you know .
To Better Days,
BRAD

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[lightening bolt]
TREMBLE before my superior knowledge!
[crash of thunder]

[sunshine returns]
I can assure you that it's pronounced "eye-gore."

Not only did I produce a one-act stage adaptation of it based on the film script, but I have a CD recording I made from the actual film soundtrack.

His full name, quite alliterative, was Ivan Igor and it was spoken as "eye-van eye-gore."

"If you don't know the answer -change the question."

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Dear Bok602,
This writer promised a number of months ago on this thread that if I was to
find out that the proper pronunciation of
Lionel Atwill's character's last name in Mystery Of The Wax Museum(1933)
was pronounced (EYE-GORE) that I would say so.Well I just finished watching the entire film over again and happily admit that Lionel Atwill's character's name is Ivan(pronounced EE-VAN) Igor(pronounced EYE-GORE).
You had the correct pronunciation of the name...consequently you were
right all along and I was wrong.
I bow to your knowledge.Also I think Fay Wray in this film was one of the most beautiful women that I've ever seen(she is a feast for the eyes).
I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
To Better Days,
BRAD

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Dear DM,

As Mister Wizard once remarked to little Timmy after the lad had perpetrated a particularly nasty experimental faux pas, "That'll teach you to tamper with the awesome powers of Science!"

You contrition is accepted. Besides, I knew I was right. <g>

"If you don't know the answer -change the question."

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Dear Bok602,
How amusing that since you were SOOO RIGHT, you must answer with extreme arrogance.You would not have answered the way you did above if you hadn't been so hurt by my original remarks.
I didn't mean to hurt you so much because it obviously still stings after all the time that's passed.
I didn't know you were so sensitive.
You obviously need some reassurance about your knowledge of Mystery Of The Wax Museum(1933).A film that stars the legendary Lionel Atwill in some of the Greatest makeup that I've ever seen for a villian in a classic chiller.
Also let us not forget how beautiful Fay Wray was as the voluptuous female lead so menaced by Mr.Atwill.
To Better Days,
BRAD


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Brad,

On the contrary -my answer was written, intended and presented with a great amount of puckish good humor. Note the <G> at the end to indicate a grin?

I was neither offended nor stung; if anything I was greatly amused that the matter had generated such controversy that you actually DID go back and do your research. It is well that we should check our facts and be certain of our findings.

Now, if I had been stung or intended to sound arrogant, I would most likely have made some truly catty comment like "I told you so," or something similar and left it there to fester on its own.

In my case my intent was not to offend or insult, demean or belittle; but rather to wink and nod, so I offered up a healthy serving of whimsy and gracious teasing...

So there! <G>

"If you don't know the answer -change the question."

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The hunchbacked character in the original Frankenstein was named Fritz. He was played by Dwight Frye, who is best-known for playing Renfield in the Lugosi Dracula. Ygor (or Igor) was a completely different character who was broken-necked, not hunchbacked.

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There is no doubt in my mind that Bela Lugosi's best role was Ygor in "Son of Frankenstein" and "Ghost of Frankenstein." The voice he used for the character was tremendous and his characterization of this sinister character was phenomenal. The make-up effects were great, and I find it funny how there are others out there who recognized Ygor was better groomed in "Ghost of ..." When you watch these films dozens of time over a 30-plus year period, they become deeper and you see so much more.

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Ygor is one baad oboe player. Marshall Allen, who played oboe for Sun Ra, has that same mystery in his playing. The oboe is a spooky woodwind instrument to begin with and Ygor gets his mystic conqueror worm to crawl out of it. He gets that reedy sound to snake charm his way through mantras of minor keyed melodies which he invents maliciously to forebode his malevolent prophecy of wicked events to come, now possible for his crippled body through his musical power over the Leviathan, The Luca Brazzi of the Frankenstein Crime Family, Boris the K (no relation to Murray).

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This has happened many times, with movie productions having to alter the Frankenstein moster when Universal didn't give their blessings. One of the later versions of the Frankenstein monster (maybe not really late) was "The Monster Squad". They actually talk about it during one of the featurettes. But it actually worked in their favor since it gave Stan Winston a chance to create his own monster.

So it does sound like Universal does hold onto the copyrights to their creations.

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i think that it's because Igor was played by Bela Lugosi pretty much.
are you going to bark all day little doggie,, or are you going to bite

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One of the things that cracks me up about Bobby Pickett's song "Monster Mash" is that in it, "Boris" (clearly Dr. Frankenstein) talks to "Ygor"-- and it's the monster who responds! "RRRRR-- Mash GOOD!" This is clearly a reference to the monster having Ygor's brain put in in GHOST OF FRANKENSTEIN. (Ain't that a riot?)

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Ok, here's my take on this.

Firstly, the monster make-ups at Universal were very strictly copyrighted, so much so that Hammer Films didn't want to go through the hassle of making direct remakes of Universal films and made very different and unique variations. The characters themselves, as in the monsters and their cast of sub-characters have fallen into the public domain since the 1930s. An interesting note though, as of 1922 Dracula was not in the public domain and thus Bram Stoker's wife fought and won in court the destruction of all prints of the German silent film classic "Nosferatu", which thankfully still survives to this day. Yet since most of these characters are from Victorian Era books they have fallen into public domain and can be used or adapted by anybody. Though Universal did loosen their grip on the monster make-ups in the mid-1960s, which was illustrated by Hammer's retcon film "Evil Of Frankenstein" which features a monster based off the classic monster make-up, and the eventual creation of "The Munsters" as well. Many others did get away with other slight changes, and in the 1960s and 1970s a bald and badly scarred version of a Frankenstein Monster became a substitute norm in low budget films, and that design can be traced back to an episode of "Tales Of Tomorrow" where Lon Chaney JR portrays the Monster in an episode retelling the tale of Frankenstein. Other notable baldies were in "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter", "Lady Frankenstein", and Hammer's 1970 reboot "Horror Of Frankenstein". Since then the classic features of Universal's Frankenstein has permeated popular culture in such ways that it may very well be punlic domain by now but I am not completely certain of that. At least there are many depictions and crafts that use the pointy hair, stitches, and bolts as well as portraying the classic suit and boots outfit.

Another thing, Ygor was not and never was a hunchback in the Universal films...he was hung, but survived but now has a broken neck. Oddly enough, the portrayal of Ygor in "Van Helsing" was dead on accurate in my opinion. It was nice to know Sommers at least paid attention to that little detail.

The pop cultural stereotypical character called "Igor" for decades is closer in appearance usually to Dr. Henry Frankenstein's assistant Fritz as portrayed by Dwight Frye (by the way, in the film Frankenstein, they switched the first names of the characters of Victor Frankenstein and Henry Clerval). When and where "Igor" was first portrayed in popular culture is an unknown to me, but I have been researching it and trying to figure out how that interpretation came about. I believe it was definitely before 1974's "Young Frankenstein" due to references to a hunchbacked Igor assistant to Dracula from an episode of M*A*S*H* from either 1972 or 1973 (Wayne Rogers as Trapper John was an Igor to Alan Alda's Hawkeye being Dracula and stealing Frank's blood for a patient as he slept in his bunk!). Even earlier references are harder to find as my trails get cold in the early 1960s.

By now "Igor" has become a generic usually hunch-backed mad scientist assistant with very few ties if any to the character portrayed by Bela Lugosi.

As for Universal not taking actions against Igors, well, most likely it was a character that they found no financial gain in, and no interpretation was probably ever close enough to the original to warrant character infringement.

Sincerely,
Exchronos

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Has anyone ever seen a 1910 or '11 version of FRANKENSTEIN? I've only seen a coupla stills and the monster appears to be wearing some kind of balding fright wig and and a mouthful of snaggle teeth. Does this film still exist?

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The 1910 Thomas Edison version of Frankenstein starring Charles Ogle as the Monster does indeed exist. For decades it was thought to be a lost film but a film collector added it to his collection back in the 1950s and didn't realize he had it until the late 1990s to early 2000s. It is in the public domain and can be freely downloaded at www.internetarchive.org as well as most other silent horror films as well. The quality may not be spectacular, but it's complete and it works!

Sincerely,
Exchronos

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Thanks for the answer. I will check out the site you mention.

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Exchronos: The monster make-ups at Universal were very strictly copyrighted, so much so that Hammer Films didn't want to go through the hassle of making direct remakes of Universal films and made very different and unique variations.

I believe that trademarked is probably the correct term for the Frankenstein make-up's legal protection. That little quibble aside, Hammer did deal with Universal. Their The Mummy was a direct remake of Universal's first two "Kharis the mummy" films from the early 1940s. Why its US distributor was and is Warner Bros., I'll probably never understand. The U-distributed Evil of Frankenstein was, because of that connection, able to model its monster make-up design after the classic one.

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