Gable was robbed


I don't doubt it at all that Ronert Donat protrayal in the movie "Goodbye Mr. Chips" was outstanding but personally Clark Gable should have won the oscar over Donat for "Gone With the Wind." Anyone want to refute?

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Although Gable's performance was worth the nomination, it is by no means a great deviation from many of the "charming rogue" characters that Gable had been playing for years. He deserved the Oscar for his performance in "It Happened One Night", but Donat's performance was much more difficult.

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I really think it was a toss-up between Donat's performance in this movie, and Stewart's performance in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington". Both were deserving and the Academy had to choose one, and I think they made a good decision if not only for the fact that Stewart won for Best Actor the following year.

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Ah stop the wining, Shemp Howard should have won that year...

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1939 was a tough year. Anyone who won would have been argued at.

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1939 is generally recognized as the greatest year of the golden age of Hollywood. Actors, scripts, direction, total packages, etc.

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I agree, for the most part, that Rhett was just "Gable being Gable". He did work very hard, though, and truly had to reach for the scenes after Bonnie died. It was very easy in those days simply to play it very broadly - I think actors still were influenced by the stage actor's need to play to the back row. I believe Gable managed to keep his performance in check, making it much more real. Still I give the edge to Donat. The young Chips could have been a simple carboard character. Donat does a good job of giving us a glimpse of the potential the young Chipping has to grow into the man Chips that he becomes.

I still would give the trophy to Stewart - he beats them both!

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I loved Robert Donat's performance in this movie - I think he did deserve the best actor Oscar. Several others did also, but I would have put Clark Gable down towards the bottom of my list (liked him more in other movies). Jimmy Stewart in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" would have been been my other choice. Mickey Rooney's nomination does surprise me though.

In 1939 how could they choose?

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Donat's performance in "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" is the best male performance that I have ever seen. I can't think of any performance (from any year) that was more deserving of an Academy Award.

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I think you have a little guilty of slightly exaggerating his performance in the film. But I agree that the Oscar was well-deserved for him, not saying Clark Gable was bad, but Donat's performance was just perfect. Glad to see Oscar was not always stupid.

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I agree with you and it was great even though lots of people thought Gable and Stewart deserved it but when I finally saw this movie I realized that Donat was great and he really deserved the oscar. Some think they made up to Stewart a year later for The Philadelphia Story but all they did was rob Henry Fonda for The Grapes of Wrath and even Stewart admitted Fonda was robbed.

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stewart was great and gable made gone with the wind (im a dude) but this dude was ok. the aging must have won it for him, jeez 1939, 1976 two best years ever for films?

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"I can't think of any performance (from any year) that was more deserving of an Academy Award. "
EYOWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!! Haven't seen many movies have you??? This was a great performance as he had many changes throughout the film... even when he was counted out several times.... The original nerd.......


Consider these...I disregard the Oscar label and this is in NO Order....

The entire cast of Godfather
The entire Main cast of Glengary Glen Ross
The entire Main cast of LA Confidential
The entire Main Cast of Glory
The entire Main Cast of LOTR 1 & 2 & 3
Rutger Hauer Blade runner (tears in the rain scene is worthy of the above)
Harrison Ford Blade runner
Jack Nicholson The departed One flew/ and yes BATMAN was Oscar worthy
Jimmy Stewart Vertigo
Gregory Peck : to kill a mockingbird
Brando Godfather
Pacino Godfather 1&2
Deniro Godfather 2
Denzel Washington Glory
Johnny Depp Finding Neverland Ed Wood



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After reading your comment I thought about why I always loved this characterization so much. Did I really...or did I just like the character? Nah! He completely deserved it. Gable did a creditable job...creating Gable. Donat created a good and noble man and made him memorable and believable.

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Jimmy should have won.
His performance is in my top five of all time.

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I'm glad Robert Donat won. He was one of the leading actors of the '30s, only to have his career decline along with his health. This was his last Oscar nomination, and the only time he would win. Steward, Fonda, and Gable all had long, illustrious careers. Donat's was cut short at an early age.

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Good point.

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I don't really think Gable was robbed at all to be honest because I can't see any hard work and effort from him as Rhett Butler in GWTW, especially not compared to Robert Donat's performance in Goodbye Mr Chips. Donat clearly worked very very hard and as you watch Mr Chips age from a young man to an old gentleman in his 80s, it is mindblowing to think that it was all done by a 34 year old man. When I saw Gable in GWTW, I didn't feel I was watching an actor give an impressive performance, I felt like I was watching Clark Gable play Clark Gable. Donat deserved his oscar so much for this film, and if he hadn't I'm sure Laurence Olivier would have won for playing Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights, which was equally as good.

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How can you presume to know that Gable did not put work and effort into Rhett, what an incredible pretentious thing to say. Rhett was not supposed to be an intense, dramatically heightened character, like Chips or Healthcliff, he was a Rogue; genial, suave- cheese and chalk darlin'. Each preformance has to be considered within the context of the film

I mean goodbye Mr Chips is all very quaint but quite fusty,(Nothing at all compared to Dead Poet's Society) wheras Gone With The Wind was by far the better story, edgy for its day with confronting characters and brilliant cinematography. (As for Larry in Wuthering Heights, he was a wonderful hollywood construct, but his character did not resemble Bronte's Heathcliff at all and the dialogue; " cathy.....you're still my queen", LOL, poor Emily would be turnin in 'er grave to see her smouldering byronic hero depleated into a love sick fop)

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RE: "wheras Gone With The Wind was by far the better story, edgy for its day with confronting characters and brilliant cinematography"

What on earth has cinematography got to do with the Best Actor Oscar? Gable in many ways reminds me of Jack Nicholson. He played himself in every movie he starred in. They both have been awfully good at playing themselves, but Donat played his character, not himself.

Gone With the Wind was a worthwhile film, even setting aside the rather ridiculous portrayal of the antebellum south as some sort of American Camelot, but Gable, despite being one of Hollywood's greatest stars, still played Clark Gable in Gone With the Wind.

If you want to see a classic Clark Gable performance, watch It Happened One Night.

If you want to see a classic Robert Donat performance, watch The 39 Steps.

Neither Goodbye, Mister Chips nor Gone With the Wind is the star actor's best performance, but in my opinion, Donat bested Gable (and Stewart, who I also love) in 1939.

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Clark Gable's performance in "Gone With the Wind" was completely uninspiring IMO. Yes, it was a blockbuster movie, but playing Rhett Butler couldn't have been that difficult because it's the same character Gable played in most of his movies (or 20 which I've seen, anyway).

On the other hand, Robert Donat's performance in "Goodbye Mr. Chips" is one of the most awe-inspiring I have seen. His skill and believability in aging the character is remarkable. He did a spectacular job playing the modest and unassuming schoolmaster who was so highly loved and respected, an example to students certainly not seen in the teachers of our modern society, and a quiet reassurance to his boys in the time of war.

I also thought Jimmy Stewart's performance in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" was superb and certainly Oscar-worthy. If the difficult choice between Stewart and Donat had been up to me, Donat would probably have slightly edged out Stewart but I would supported either choice. Robert Donat definitely deserved the Best Actor award.

To Clark Gable I would give the award for the best performance of Clark Gable.

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I love all three performances; and Olivier as Heathcliff is terrific in his own way, too. Olivier's performance comes across as a bit over-theatrical to a lot of people today, but it's a genuine performance. Donat, too is a trifle stagy by our standards, but very moving, if you can open yourself to it. Stewart is marvelous -- this is clearly his best role to date, and he was stating on a tremendous roll that included The Shop Around the Corner, The Mortal Storm and The Philadelphia Story.

The years have not been particularly kind to Gone With the Wind -- a classic spectacular, yes, but incorrigibly romantic and wrongheaded about slavery and the South. And it's not just the politics of the film that are a bit embarrassing: Leslie Howard is unbearably annoying (yes, i know that's the character, and we're not supposed to like him by the end, but sheesh).

Gable's Rhett Butler is the best thing about the movie. When he is on screen, the story pops with energy and intelligence, and the movie feels 50 years newer than it is. Now a lot of that is due to the writers, including Margaret Mitchell. There is so much blatant falseness in all the other characters that we always welcome it when Rhett (and Hattie McDaniel as Mammy) comes in to call bullcrap on the rest of them. But Gable was outstanding in the part.

Even today, it's hard to imagine another actor in that part. George Clooney? The charm of the chaacter, yes, but not the danger. Russell Crowe? Opposite problem. Maybe Paul Newman in his day, but he would have had trouble with the speechiness of the part. Jack Nicholson could do attractive, glib, cynical, brutally honest, and dangerously troubled, but even imagining him in the role makes me want to giggle. William Holden, circa 1960, might have been pretty good. I suppose if for some reason Gable hadn't done it, it would have fallen to some stiff like George Brent. Ugh.

I'd have voted for Gable, I think, but they are all four very Oscar-worthy performances. (Sorry, Mickey.)

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Robert Donat for me. It seems most agreed with Oscar that year.

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studio heads chose the winner. muni was due.

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I think Jimmy's performance was the best of 1939. But at the same time, it's impossible to argue he was "robbed". Donat performed marvellously in his role as Mr. Chips, and he certainly deserved the Oscar.

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Donat's portrayal of the ever endearing Mister Chips is one of the most memorable performances mine eyes have ever beheld. He was the definition of a fine performer, and it was his performance as Chips of Brookfield School that made the movie such a charming and fine-tuned masterpiece of sentiment.
I greatly appreciate Clark Gable's, Jimmy Stewart's and Laurence Olivier's performances as each of their characters, but it really was an insightful decision on the Academy's part to give the award to Donat. His turn as Chips is one of the best performances ever captured upon film, his charming charisma and ability to portray the everyday nuances of one man's life was truly extraordinary. His subtle yet beautous character surpasses, in my mind, the passionate characters of which his faced. It really was one of the greatest achievements in all Academy history to have such a lovely character ever be portrayed so adeptly and with such great care.
Mr. Donat's performance shall forever impress me: if he were alive I would give him very deserved dues.

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I loved Robert Donat's performance, but I also loved Clark Gable's as well as Jimmy Stewart in "Mr Smith Goes to Washington". It must have been a tough choice for the academy, but as everyone knows it's not always about the best performance. I think the fact that Clark Gable had already won an Oscar for "It Happened One Night" had a lot to do with it. Lionel Barrymore said that he won the Oscar for "A Free Soul" because he had been sick and everyone thought he was about to die. I read that Joan Fontaine won for "Suspicion" because many people thought she should have won the previous year for "Rebecca". So even though the award is supposed to be about the best performance, there are other determining factors.

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I would have to argue and say that Cary Grant and John Wayne were exceptional actors, not just stars. Grant really could play many roles.

Many people say that John Wayne was always John Wayne, and while he did do many westerns with the same archtype, he could break through and give different and good performances. Movies like The Searchers, The Quiet Man, Without Reservations, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance really show how he could stretch himself.

I personally would've given the Oscar to Jimmy Stewart in 1939 (and then Fonda likely would've won for 'Grapes'), but I won't sat Robert Donat wasn't great. When I first watched the film I didn't know who Donat was, and I assumed he was only playing the old Mr. Chips, but after some of the younger sequences, I realized it was all the same actor. He played each age part well, and even LOOKS old as Chips at 83.

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1939 was a wonderful year with many masterpieces and great performances.
But for me, James Stewart as Senator Smith would have be the big Oscar winner - even if I'm a big fan of Gable's Rhett Butler ;-)


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