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Was Eddie Foy Sr. really in Tombstone?


Eddie Foy Jr., who did virtually nothing else in films except play his famed vaudevillian father, once again portrays him in FRONTIER MARSHAL.

Was Eddie Sr. ever really in Tombstone? Actors did travel the West, and in MY DARLING CLEMENTINE, a reworking of FM, there's an unnamed actor (admittedly a British tragedian, not a vaudeville act) who arrives to give a show. But in 1957's GUNFIGHT AT THE O.K. CORRAL, when the Clanton gang comes to town to take in a show that's playing, the actor playing on the stage (whom we hear inside but never see) is advertised on posters as being Eddie Foy. Is this just a nod to the earlier movie (which I doubt), or was the elder Foy actually in Tombstone sometime around the famed gunfight?

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Foy spent the late 1870's and most of the '80's performing over most of the West . He was performing in Tombstone in October of 1881, the OK Gunfight was Oct. 26, 1881. Foy had even met Doc Holliday some time previous to that, probably in Dodge City and before 1879, as Foy claims in his autobiography that Doc had tried, in 1879, to convince him to take part in a rail road right of way "negotiation" that became known as the Royal Gorge War. Foy may have met Earp earlier as well, also in Dodge. Earp was awakened by gun fire as Foy and another actor discussed their rivalry over a local 'actress.' Both actors were drunk, he shots went wild and Earp sent them to their repective hotel rooms to sleep it off.

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Wow! Great story! Did you get all this from Foy's autobiography? If so, and even allowing for poor memories or a bit of exaggeration, there must be truth to it, given Foy's "presence" (in one form or another) in all these O.K. Corral movies. Thanks for responding with such an informative post!

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Its always sage to remember how close this was made to the events..... around the 50 years mark, so anyone aged in their 20's would still be only 70 odd, which is why some cowboys were involved in the early movies and acted as experts including Wyatt himself. - the same way Dale Dye did for all those 80's/90's Vietnam films.

Plus at the time Tombstone was pretty big - around 10,000 and had several dance Halls and the like.

And Holliday and the Earps were 'buds'/cohorts way before Tombstone.

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True -- though closer to the 60-year mark by 1939 -- but proximity doesn't mean reliability. What's fascinating (and a bit sad) is reading about men like Wyatt Earp and Bat Masterson, for two, who ended their days pursuing a variety of careers far from the Old West.

It's also important to note that by the 1920s these men, and many other heroes of the West of half a century earlier, were scarcely remembered and hardly romanticized. Earp came to Hollywood in 1928 expressly to sell his life story, and thanks to his meeting up with author Stuart N. Lake, Wyatt became a legend long after his death, and grist for a lot of tall tales and exaggerations as well as fact. The same is true of other western personalities of the 1870s and 80s.

Arguably, the proximity of this film to that era made it less historically accurate because the main interest then was in selling idealized legends, not cold facts, and the people left from that period were happy to oblige, especially if they were being paid for the "right" reminiscences. More accurate portrayals of Earp and the others came much later in the 20th century, when all of their contemporaries had long since passed on.

None of this has any bearing on the Foy question, of course, but his presence in Tombstone in 1881 seems confirmed.

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Yeah, my comment about the actual size of Tombstone was more about the degree of civilization etc of the place and not the one street town Hollywood often portrays,

I actually did my Masters theists in history comparing the Hollywood version on the OK incident compared to reality and I am still scratching my head over them. Even this early one misspelling doc name and making him a GP of sorts, Earp as a 'real' lawman. The reality of the brothers having and running 'whore' wives, running crooked games........ soo much better.

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Truth usually is more interesting than fiction. (I said "usually"!) Perhaps the closest film to the truth about the gunfight that wasn't quite at the OK Corral, and its participants, was Hour of the Gun, the only film featuring the gunfight that has it at the beginning instead of the climax.

But it doesn't get much into the Earps' ancillary careers!

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Oh man! these guys (and girls) were insane! All would split off to different places, find the best spot then all converge, one gets into the law, take over a Bar, get into crime, hooking .... *beep* all forms of crime, then move on.

add to this guys like Masterson and Holliday...... OG's from the day.

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Nice to have an extended family. Blood mattered as well as splattered in those days.

Pardon my ignorance: "OG's"?

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lol sorry.... the rap term, Original Gangsters.

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Oh yeah, right. I was thinking "Old Gunslingers"!

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