Quite risible (spoilers)


I'll admit this had me intrigued and entertained for most of its length. But gradually I came to see that surely it's just plain daft, the number of plotholes. I mean, a brother is meant to die on a certain day, and is fretful because it's the day itself! What is Holmes doing? Faffing about the nature museum in Kensington to find out what kind of bird is on the cryptic drawing! Meanwhile the brother is encouraged to go home to be safe, taking a solitary walk through dark and foggy Victorian London!

Holmes often is plain cavalier regarding his clients' welfare. What's more, the finale doesn't make sense! It appears that the boyfriend has been killed, but oh no he hasn't been, and he and the girl are going to get married! And if the boyfriend is innocent all along, then his sending the brother home through the fog and total lack of sympathy make him a rotter!

And what's more, the note is similar to one sent 10 years ago, marking the death of the girl's father. Was Moriaty involved in that too? If so, it's a long time in the planning.

At times I felt this film might have been aimed at 10 year olds.

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Yes, i just finished watching this and you pointed out all the same questions and conundrums i had about the film. Additionally, when she says to Holmes that her father received a similar note ten years before she goes on to lament that she saw her father's body in the street and that Scotland yard could not make sense of the note. Then after hearing the Inca funeral derge outside her window she tells Holmes that she's heard the music before when she was a little girl in South America the night her father died.

So was she in two places at once for the same event when her father died possibly in two places as well? Was her father murdered in a street in South America and Scotland Yard made the trip all the way down there to investigate? I thought things were wrapped up rather lazily bc i still don't trust Jerrold Hunter and can't figure how he survived the blow to the head. Moriarty seemed particularly slow about removing the jewels from the crown.

However, for the plot holes and shortcomings, I really enjoyed the film. Basil Rathbone has always been a favorite of mine and i thought Nigel Bruce did reasonably well as the bungler sidekick. The scene with him lying in the street and telling off the passerby was absolutely hysterical. There was a nice overall spooky tone to the film that made it thrilling to watch.

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Cheers phoeniceus, good to get your feeback!

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I particularly disliked the amount of time and research it took Holmes to realize that the bird in the picture was an albatross. It was tied to the figure's neck for God's sake. I much prefer it when Holmes is ahead of me, and I'm not miles ahead of him.


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I definitely agree on that point! Holmes took too long to figure out the bird. Had he no books?

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SPOILERS.

I have to agree. The plot is just silly. No explanation is offered as to who the murderer was. Did he draw the albatross picture? It seemed that Moriarity did. Was Moriarity in South America ten years earlier?

The guards at the tower of London were laughable. Even assuming that they would admit three "policemen" they did not know to the treasure room, after the ruckus, they just turn out the light and leave! Oh really? It doesn't occur to them to search the room thoroughly before they leave?

The movie has some nice features and acting, but the plot really does seem to be at a juvenile level.

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The Tower Guards also allow Holmes to gain entry to the Tower undetected. I'm assuming the carriage turning over was an accident, but how could they not be alert to the possibility of such an obvious diversion?

Another matter left unaddressed is the non-appearance of the real police officers assigned by Holmes to protect the stone. One must assume that Moriarty and associates have waylaid them and assumed their documents and perfectly fitting uniforms.

I also share the unease over the character of Jerrold. His final exchange with Ann goes: 'Don't touch me, don't touch me!' 'Surely you're not afraid of me. You are afraid. That's how much all the years have counted. You think I want to hurt you. I don't know why I don't.' Next thing you know, they're living happily ever after!

Finally, I don't understand why Moriarty wants Holmes to know that he's connected with the Brandon case, nor how he can be sure that Watson will arrive to discover it.

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I have to agree. The plot is just silly. No explanation is offered as to who the murderer was. Did he draw the albatross picture? It seemed that Moriarity did. Was Moriarity in South America ten years earlier?
Well, there originally was more room in the subplot. Shortly after saving Ann, the group gather into the study to question the murderer. Turns out that Papa Brandon stole the South American mine that made his family fortune. The native family he stole from swore a blood curse against him and his heirs (Ann's fiancee knew the truth but kept silent to protect Ann). Moriarty learned of this and decided to use it in his plot to distract Holmes.
Unfortunately, the producers thought this scene slowed the pace (what with Moriarty being busy stealing the Crown Jewels) and deleted it to cut to the chase.

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Yes, VERY silly film indeed! I love Holmes, and Rathbone, so have been methodically catching up on on the "collaborations". Wow! This one stank (as far as script goes, anyway). All the silliness already mentioned, and more. Didn't take long for me to start feeling irritated and muttering "Stupid!" under my breath over and over and over... Yeah, on the very day your life is threatened, walk home by yourself in the dark fog. Or run out of the house into the dark, tangled garden. Heaven forbid that you should remain inside with your trusted friend. Or ask the party hostess to stay with you for another 10 minutes until midnight arrives. Don't ever do anything sensible, for that matter.

Whatever your choices (and this applies to other situations in the film as well) choose the silliest, most illogical, daftest, dumbest and most likely to get you topped.

A really disappointing film!

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they should have kept that scene in and axed the dumbness at the museum studying the albatross.

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I wanna point out, that scenes from the original script were omitted in order to shorten the movie. So some explanations are missing, which lead to some of the plotholes.

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Absolutely true to say the plot is ridiculous, but it is very well made and acted and a lot of fun. Few who watch could fail to be entertained. A superior piece of nonsense and one of the better Holmes films.

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Another silly thing concerning the damned albatross was that Holmes actually recognized the family this bird belongs to yet failed to figure out it´s the most commonly known representative of the said family.

Also, the way the story was told (Moriarty explainig the set-up upfront) seems pretty much like shooting oneself in the foot - considering the lack-lustre story - and the equally lacklustre way it´s told - keeping the viewer in the dark about the scheme would have been about the only way to inject some suspense into proceedings and possibly make sure the thing´s engaging at least on the first viewing. Now one´s just stuck with this second rate plot with all its borderline absurd contrivances unravelling in an obvious, tedious manner. Inspector Clouseau would have solved this one. All in all, it´s probably the weakest of all six Rathbone´s Holmes movies that I´ve seen.

And Jesus was that houseboy of theirs annoying...



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