Too hokey for serious analysis?


This movie is pure escapism, nothing more. Much of the dialogue sounds forced, Flynn's performance is far from his best, and it just doesn't hold up to repeated viewings (I watched it a 2nd time tonight; 1st time was about 20 years ago).

I would bet that almost all of those who are giving this movie a 10 rating are youngsters who get excited watching a sword fight.

That said, "Captain Blood" still kicks a$$, possibly because it was made when Errol still had to prove himself. After he became a star, he got lazy rather rapidly.

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I preety much disagree or am sceptical with everything you just said, but especially with your second point: I don't know many 10 year olds who are into old-fashioned movies. They've seen far better swordfights in LOTR.

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I've seen it , conservatively, 20 times over my lifetime. I never tire of it. No one I know dislikes it. It is universally applauded by them.

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There is nothing wrong with a little bit of Hokey-ness in my opinion. I do enjoy this film alot and no i did not see it when i was 10 and i don't enjoy it just for the sword fights (although you have to admit they still look good even today). It is fun, colourful, brash, totally camp and over the top but awesomely so. I agree it is not Flynn, de Havilland, Rathbone or Raines finest performances but enjoyable nonetheless.






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My suspicion is actually the opposite. That many of those giving it a 10 are movie buffs appreciating the history.

I watched this movie for the first time last night, and I have to agree with you ... it is pure escapism and it is rather hokey. But now try to imagine what this movie was like 70 years ago! I can see so many cliches in this movie that probably became cliches because of this movie. The 1-on-100 fight scenes, the use of tables and candlesticks, and anything else in the fight, the witty banter during exciting scenes, the was people meet as enemies, fight and turn into best friends. These are staples now of superhoero movies, of Indiana Jones, of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Heck, of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, which is old in and of itself.

Not all of the movie has aged well (your criticisms definitely have merit), but its a fun fun ride and an influential one at that.

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"This movie is pure escapism, nothing more."

So what? What's wrong with escapism? That was the purpose of this film when it was made, and it does a wonderful job accomplishing what it sets out to do.

"It just doesn't hold up to repeated viewings."

For whom? You? You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but many people, including myself, find it one of those movies that can be watched over and over again.

"I would bet that almost all of those who are giving this movie a 10 rating ..."

I am a middle-aged man, not a "youngster", and my like for this film has nothing to do with getting "excited watching a sword fight". It's a classic technicolor film from the golden age of Hollywood that was very lushly and richly photographed, and some fine performances by the cast (especially Basil Rathbone). I find your remark rather snide and patronizing.

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I completely disagree with the OP.

I've seen this movie a handful of times over my 23 year old life, and not once have I failed to enjoy it.

Errol Flynn lights up the screen like nobody today can. He's a star from a different time of cinema

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On a scale of 1-10, I'd rank this as at least a 20. I, too, have watched this all my life, and I never miss it when I'm able to watch. Don't people get that this is essentially a "fairy tale"? A leading man so glorious that he should have been sculpted by Michelangelo. An ethereal leading lady who seemed to be wrapped in starlight. Don't forget two wonderful, dastardly villains, and a stable of brilliant character stars who could be funny without coming across as stupid.

Do any of us remember the film MY FAVOURITE YEAR? When Benjy tells a tired, debauched Allan Swann, (based on Flynn), that "he needs Allan Swanns as big as he can get them". Swann looks at Benjy, and sees himself as the boy sees him. It rejuvenates him, and Allan Swann saves the day.

Today, we need "Errol Flynns as big as we can get them", if only to relieve the misery of a VERY ugly world for an hour or two.

God Bless You, Errol Flynn....and THANK YOU!

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Nice to see someone connect "My Favorite Year" with this film and Flynn. And, yeah, we "still" need our Allan Swanns as big as we can get them. Unfortunately, they're elusive at best -- except on TCM.

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I know a poster who has an on-again, off-again thing with IMDb ( translation: he keeps getting banned for trollish behavior!) and is known for "hating on" almost every "Old Hollywood" actor, including Errol Flynn.

But even THAT guy concedes there has never been a Robin Hood flick since 1938 that can touch "The Adventures of Robin Hood!"

As for my own "IMO," the only other version of Robin Hood I rank above 6-out-of-10 is the old '50's British TV series (starring Richard Greene), the re-runs of which, they used to air in syndication here in the US when I was a kid.

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Plenty of the "old" Hollywood movies, particularly the adventure/action ones like this one, were hokey escapism--and insofar as they are immensely entertaining, I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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Any more hokey than a kid wielding a "lightsabre"?

Any more hokey than a 30's archeologist with a bullwhip?

Any more hokey than a British Spy who get's treated to dinner by his enemy, and shags every beautiful woman who's near him?

It's a simple story of good vs. evil. Perhaps if you look at the "rob from the rich and give to the poor" how many movies dare to turn a thief into a hero?

Maybe it's hokey because it's a G-rated movie meant to appeal to all audiences. Given that the world was getting out of an economic depression, and movie to take your mind off your worries.

But people standing up for what's right and injustice? Yeah...that's certainly hokey.

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It's still one of the best films ever made in my book. I first saw it 45 years ago or so. I give it a 10.

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Five "Huzzahs" for ROBIN. Those postmodern, jaded, nouvelle vague types who put it down as hokey and dated are impudent ramscuttles who should be tied to catapults and hurled over the walls of Nottingham Castle. I think I'll watch it again this weekend. Zounds!
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What we have here is failure to communicate!

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There are plenty of purely escapist films made today and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Its still a tremendously entertaining film, as its supposed to be. It can be analyzed just as much as Star Wars, Indiana Jones, or any other number of "hokey" but highly fun flicks.

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Something I found incomprehensible- why did Gisborne decide to have him publicly hanged thus allowing his men to rescue him? Wouldn't it have made more sense to just kill him on the spot and then put his head on display?
I forgot- logic is not that common in movies.

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