Rare goof from the master


I don't know how many other Hitchcock fans have noticed this particular goof. Maybe I'm nit picking. Anyhow, about 5 minutes into the film, the newspaper headlines (re. the murder of Christine Clay ) reveal the date January 6th 1936. About 55 minutes further into the film the resignation letter of Erica's father is dated August 17th 1937. There is only a day or two between these 2 events ! Mind you, I suppose, sometimes a day and a half can seem like a year and a half.

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The dates mentioned are quite obvious. I thought, oh, this movie was from 1936.

As far as "the master" goes, see the DVD of Rebecca and look at the DVD #2 for some great insights into how The Master got reamed over how he intended to screw up the widely popular novel and how the studio told him to start over since there was no continuity between what he had done and the novel. Very interesting, the letters are there in their entirety, the correspondence between the producers & the Director, "Hitch". I think without this kick in the pants from Hollywood, Hitch may never have become the director he did. Perhaps the writer of the screenplay should take some blame, but it doesn't come across that way.

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trwroth,

I think you overestimate the importance of David O. Selznick’s commentary about Hitchcock, and underestimate just how well-established Hitchcock was as a director before he ever landed in “Hollywoodland.”

Anyone who has followed Sir Alfred Hitchcock’s career knows that Hitch usually based his films upon novels, but that he rarely followed them with any degree of accuracy. Instead of trying to make a film version of a successful novel, he instead made highly cinematic adaptations of those aspects of the novel in which he was most interested.

Alternately, David O. Selznick, was more interested in the faithful transfer of famous novels into “artistic” films.

Hitchcock was accustomed to controlling his own productions, and Selznick was accustomed to micro managing his productions through voluminous decrees in the form of memorandums fuelled by the inability to delegate, and by tossing back amphetamines like popcorn.

The two men were predestined to disagree upon how “Rebecca” should be filmed. Selznick had used five different directors and at least 12 different screenwriters to complete “Gone With the Wind,” so it is more of a tribute to Hitchcock that he — as an employee of Selznick, the producer — could survive the entire production of “Rebecca” and still manage to imbue “Rebecca” with so much of his own directorial voice.

If Selznick expressed bitterness about Hitchcock, either in his memorandums, or in his habit of lending out Hitchcock’s services to other studios, Hitchcock also made his dislike of Selznick clear.

Hitchcock had the bulky Raymond Burr dressed in round, steel rim glasses and short grey hair, looking remarkably like David O. Selznick, to play the part of the villainous murderer in “Rear Window.”

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David O. Selznick's decisions were very bad. But thanks to Hitchcock, Rebecca is a masterpiece.

According to the Book "Its only a Movie", David O. Selznick wanted the smoke from the burning Manderley to spell out a huge R. Alfred Hitchcock thought the touch lacked any subtlety. When Selznick was preoccupied by Gone With the Wind (1939), Hitchcock was able to replace the smoky R with the burning of a monogrammed lingerie case. Hitchcock also edited the picture in the camera, a method of filmmaking that didn't allow David O. Selznick to reedit the picture.

So pretty much, what we are watching is from Hitchcock's own vision.




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The one I noticed was at the end, when we see Erica (Nova Pilbeam) confronted in the hotel lobby by her old boyfriend, Dep. Inspector Kent (John Longden). She notices a commotion on stage, where the drummer seems to be indisposed. Kent tells her its none of her concern, but then we hear a sound of alarm, as the camera pans over to where the drummer is, some 30 yards away, surrounded by a throng of people, with Dep. Inspector Kent cradling his head.

Making matters worse is another cut to Erica off in the back, with Kent standing just behind her. She wedges her way into the throng, and right next to the teleporting policeman.

I swear that's John Longden holding the drummer man's head up. Am I wrong?

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I am afraid you are mistaken: it's the bandleader. The previous shots show the bandleader going to help the drummer and supporting him. You can tell it's him because of his striped tie, which not only matches the tie he was wearing earlier, but also matches the drummer's (and the other band members: fancy bands dressed identically in those days, I imagine).

Compare that tie to Inspector Kent's, which can be seen a moment later: his is more of a wide plaid or check pattern.

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As well as mocking up Raymond Burr to look like Selznick, in 'North By Northwest', Roger Thornhill's cigarette case is entitled Roger O Thornhill - just like David O Selznick. In both cases, the owners of the names claim that it stands for nothing.

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In my opinion, a bigger goof is the major plot hole. The police are chasing someone whose only suspicious action is to have been seen running from the body of the murdered woman. But no one seems to have noticed or cared that her ex-husband (who is ex only because she flew to Nevada and divorced him) has disappeared.

--Balok

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But that's part of the plot. The police are complacent and easily satisfied that they have the right suspect. But then the fact that he flees certainly makes him look more guilty, and necessitates that the police hunt him. And there is also the raincoat belt which ties him to the crime (except he could simply not have admitted to having had a similar raincoat, and there's never any real proof that the belt belongs to him ... but it's another flimsy incriminating clue).

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I took it not so much as a plot hole, but a commentary on how completely incompetent the police were, and it extends to most officials in the town including the defense lawyer and the people in the court.

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I think the small-town police force was supposed to be seen as thoroughly inept in their duties, as was Robert's appointed counselor. Also, one gets the impression that Christine and her ex-husband hadn't lived together for a while, so it's possibly that no one knew he had returned. Robert, for instance, doesn't seem to know who he was.

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The person in charge of continuity in the film was listed as: Alma Reville, perhaps she should have been fired and blacklisted from doing films in the future.

(before you say anything, I know, I know!)

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I don't think that would happen as she was Alfred Hitchcock's wife.

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That was the point of my snarky, smartass comment.

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