The greatest version


I do not care what anybody says. This is the original and therefore greater then any remake could possibly imagine.
I also enjoyed it more.

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I love this movie - it's one of my top favorites. I could watch the early scenes where Grandma and Aunt Maddie crab, Esther snaps at Aunt Mattie, and Grandma comforts Esther and gives her inspiration over and over as well as the scenes where Esther first arrives in Hollywood and sees the sites and then later gets her big screen test. I definately think this version captures the dream of wanting to be a star far better than the later versions.

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I haven't seen any of the others, and I can't imagine I'm missing much--how DO you turn this masterpiece into a musical?! (disclaimer: I'll watch it if it comes on and see if I'm proven wrong)

It was brilliant and the screenplay flowed like an Aaron Sorkin creation, I'm so glad I finally saw it!

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I watched the remake last Saturday on PBS...WHOA Judy!! My loyalty to the original is the only reason I didn't change the channel, listening to so much of her blubbery sobbing, especially towards the end. Does she do that in all her movies? I guess all I've seen is this and Meet me in St Louis and Wizard of Oz, and I'll give her this--she's the best film cryer maybe in history. I just don't like seeing it most of the time...

I definitely prefer the balance of the original, how both characters were important and good.

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Judy Garland did a magnificent job playing the suffering wife was struggling to keep her demeanor and and sanity intact to summon the strength to try to keep her marriage together and help her husband when he couldn't help himself.

Honestly, it's very very difficult to expect any less from the Esther considering all the pain and anguish she is suffering, not just for herself, but for Norman as well.

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I don't think Judy was over dramatic in her version, and your wrong, the musical works VERY WELL. GREAT songs, great acting. I'm about the watch the Janet Gaynor version.


the Barbra Streisand version wasn't that good, however.

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I think I'm just not a Streisand fan. I almost didn't watch this because I've seen the Streisand version.

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I agree. The remakes lose out on what the theme of this movie was about regarding the time period of the transition into sound. It was about the fickleness of fans. Granted the remakes touch on rising and falling stars, well, it loses when it is no longer about that early Hollywood storyline. Many stars lost their fame, fortunes, and lives in that transition. The movie is a Hollywood film about Hollywood. It's what made it special. Hollywood was turning a mirror onto itself. I don't feel that connection in the remake, even the one with Judy Garland and James Mason.

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The 1937 is my favorite of the versions I've seen, however, it must be noted it is not in fact the first version of this story. It was first filmed as What Price Hollywood in 1932, a story with a marginally different plot line, but similar enough that Selznick International almost got sued for plagiarism. A Star is Born (1937) was an unauthorized remake.

I agree with what others have said that the setting in the mid to late 1930s helps the film, giving the collapse of Norman Maine silent-to-sound transition implications. It was one of the principal inspirations for the recent successful modern silent on that theme, The Artist for this reason, and was itself loosely inspired by a number of incidents involving fallen silent stars. Frederic March is perfectly cast, and Gaynor's performance, and the production in general (possibly save for the somewhat imperfect early color...my dvd is low quality so this could be the reason) has a certain simple tragedy and subtle intuition that I feel sets it apart from the Judy Garland version.

I must add that I very much enjoy the 1954 remake. It was a good production. The musical element and the glossy, 1950s setting give it more of a Valley of the Dolls feel than its more subdued predecessor. In some ways it helps the film, in others detracts. Some of the musical numbers worked well for it ("The Man That Got Away" is brilliant and perfectly complements the tone of this work), but it gets bogged down in showy musical numbers that do nothing to further the story along, and dramatic confrontation after dramatic confrontation. The best parts of it are the elements it borrowed from the '37 film. Judy was fantastic and deserved an Oscar (so did Gaynor), and it's one of the better remakes as remakes go, but the epic length detracts from the simplicity of this human story. Both versions are well worth a watch though.

I haven't seen the Barbara Streisand version, and I have very little temptation to.

It could be remade again and again and still be ok, but the 1937 is the best in my opinion. It's a timeless story, but in 1937 it was also timely.

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I vaguely recall having seen another version of this movie with Barbra Streisand and Kris Kristofferson. I hated it. I watched this movie because of when it was made. I enjoyed it. The story was more entertaining in my opinion.


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Anybody watch the Lady Gaga version?

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