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The Avalanche (Spoilers)


I saw LH the other day and overall thought it was a very solid film (not an elite Capra film, but still really good). However, one scene in particular bugged me - the stupid avalanche scene! I understand that it was necessary, plot-wise, to kill off the sherpas in order to have Bob, George, and George's GF survive on their own (then through old age and suicidal grief, leave only Bob left to return to civilization) and the quickest way to kill off such a large group of sherpas (especially in the Himalayas) is to simply have an avalanche wipe them all out. That's ok by me, but how the screenwriters caused the avalanche was just so stupid - they had the sherpas jokingly start firing off rounds at people they're supposed to return to civilization (it's so inane and contrived (and it also just came out of nowhere) that I started yelling at the movie). I mean, there's many more believable methods to cause an avalanche in a movie (a simple snowstorm perhaps; a slight shifting of a boulder at the top of a mountain) or even, for that matter, much simpler ways to get rid of a group of sherpas (have them take a misstep near a cliff; have them simply leave Bob, George, and George's GF behind). Anyway, just wondering if this is what occurred in the book (for those who read it), because it just seems like such a stupid plot device in the movie.

"I'm still here agnoid!" - Angus (TBS Version)

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I sympathize with your reaction to this scene. The Tibetans would never have fired their guns in such conditions; and having them mistreat the English that way makes them look crass. In the book, the author Hilton has the Chinese character Chang tell Conway that the Tibetans who have lived in Shangri-La (the monastery, not the valley below) have not done very well there. I suppose that in the 1930s, not many Westerners objected to such portrayals.

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Five years late for the response, but I'll forge ahead anyway.

Excellent point about the avalanche foolishly being caused by natives who should have known better than to fire guns under those conditions. The avalanche itself might have been shown realistically under more probable conditions as you mentioned.

At this point, I'm going to paraphrase a discussion from the original James Hilton novel. The unnamed narrator and the writer Rutherford had met much earlier, and discussed the strange experience that Rutherford had had of meeting up with an amnesiac Conway in China. Conway had regained his memory and jumped ship, later sending Rutherford a letter thanking him for his help, and saying that he was going on a long journey.

The men talk about the arrival at a Chinese mission hospital of Conway with a Chinese woman who had somehow managed to bring him there.She died shortly after her arrival.

Rutherford and the narrator speculate on what might have happened in between the party leaving Shangri-La and Conway's arrival at the mission hospital.

Here's where I attempt to reconstruct the dialogue from the novel:

" I feel we can guess at some sort of tragedy" said Rutherford. " The hardships of the journey alone would have been perfectly appalling, not to mention the possibility of bandits or even treachery among the escorting party. It seems tolerably certain that Mallinson (George Conway in the film version) never reached China. "

The two men discuss possibilities of whether Conway could have found Shangri-La again, and whether the place even existed. If one chooses not to believe Conway's story, "...one has to question either Conway's veracity or his sanity."

Rutherford concludes by telling the narrator one strange fact about the end of the story at the hospital. The woman Lo-Tsen, who Mallinson had fallen in love with, offered to help them leave the valley. Conway insists that she's 150 years old, or thereabouts. When Mallinson and Lo-Tsen convince Conway that the story about longevity and seeming youthfulness was not true, a disillusioned Conway goes with them.

Rutherford tells the narrator that he spoke briefly to a doctor at the mission hospital, and asked whether the Chinese woman who had brought Conway there and died shortly thereafter, was young.

"Oh no" said the doctor, "She was most old; most old of anyone I have ever seen."

The novel ends with the unanswered question as to whether Conway will find his way back to Shangri-La. It is a very somber and poetic ending to a strange and fantastic novel. I recommend it to anyone who enjoys the Frank Capra film version.

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I just saw this again after many years, the restored version, and found the ending to be a real downer too, which I don't recall years ago. Did they add too much to the restored version, and the old cut version was more logical ? Sometimes more is less apparently, and in this case I guess it is !

RSGRE

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