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CRITERION release among things to come on 6/18/13


Long rumored, Criterion is at last releasing Things to Come on DVD ($29.99) and Blu-ray ($39.99) on June 18, 2013.

The running time of the Criterion disc is given as 97 minutes, which would indicate some additional footage has been included over the standard 92-minute print generally found in most public domain versions.

Besides the usual sound and picture restorations for each disc, the release includes:

* Audio commentary by critic David Kalat
* Interview with writer and cultural historian Christopher Frayling on the film's design
* Film historian Bruce Eder on Arthur Bliss's music score
* A 1936 audio recording of a reading from H.G. Wells's writing about the "wandering sickness"
* A booklet by film critic Geoffrey O'Brien
* Plus, as the Criterion page says, "More!"

Up to now probably the best DVD of this film has been the Image disc from the so-called "Wade Williams Collection". Now it, the colorized travesty, and all the other p.d. versions have finally been outmatched by Criterion.

For further information, use this link (www.criterionfilms.com/films/27552-things-to-come) to go straight to the film's Criterion page.

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I bought the Ray Harryhausen Double Feature [Blu-ray] with She and Things to Come w/ BONUS DVD The Most Dangerous Game for $12.99 on July 28, 2012. The movies can be seen in either black and white or a colorized version. I hope the Criterion Things to Come has a better picture (higher resolution, better blacks and shades of gray). I am considering buying it.

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Hello Doc -- I'm sure the Criterion disc will be of much better quality. (Criterion also has The Most Dangerous Game on DVD, though not Blu-ray.)

I assume the main reason the Blu you bought didn't have good resolution or better blacks or gray shading is because of the need to "bleach" out the negative being used in order to colorize it. The process eviscerates the depth and tones of the original picture, which is why people who say you can always turn down the color on a colorized DVD and see the original picture are mistaken. The very act of preparing a film for colorization changes its nature and downgrades its quality.

If you're unsure about buying the Criterion disc, maybe you might wait until after it's out and read some comments about it. Apart from its picture and sound quality, I'm curious whether this print contains any extra footage.

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I read the blu-ray.com review of Criterion's release and bought the Blu-ray. It definitely has a better picture quality.

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I just bought the standard DVD, and it's also superior to any previous releases. As you'd expect, after all, from Criterion.

Too bad they couldn't do away with H.G. Wells's crypto-fascist vision of the future!

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Is it that good? I haven't listened to it. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Thanks again, GG_Pan. I don't listen to DVD commentary too often because I've found most of it to be either inaccurate, mundane, or narrated by self-absorbed, self-styled "experts" who know little. Still, one usually does do better with Criterion.

Kalat also did the commentary on Criterion's release of Godzilla and I did intend to listen to that, though again I haven't gotten around to it. Have you heard his commentary there?

I twice did something similar to what you did, listen to the commentary of a film before first watching the straight DVD. But in both cases they were movies I knew well already. And both times the commentary was so insipid and inaccurate (one was by Oliver Stone, who couldn't even identify the cast members correctly!) that listening became an exercise in inanity.

I gather you'd never seen Things to Come before getting this disc. A fascinating film and very interesting as a reflection of its era, and its author. But I imagine his vision of the future holds even less allure today than it did in 1936, since as I understand it audiences even then found it sterile and unattractive. Wells's utopia is really more of a dystopia, its shiny trappings notwithstanding.

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Yes, Kalat does commentary on both the original and Americanized versions of Godzilla. I actually did listen to the commentaries on the Classic Media release of both films back in 2006, from people I knew to be expert in the field, and found them to be highly entertaining and informative -- though, curiously, while I heard only one mistake I could identify on the Gojira DVD, I picked up on around ten on the Godzilla, King of the Monsters disc! So I want to compare what Kalat says to what the others said. That and listen to him on Things to Come.

On Oliver Stone:

There are some things he knows quite well, and then there are a lot of things he thinks he knows.


Yeah, like the JFK assassination. Irresponsible tripe. But that's another issue!

On TTC:

Quite true, Wells indeed viewed this movie as, not so much a prediction as what you termed a "blueprint", an embodiment of his imagined perfect society...though even within his blinkered vision of perfection he describes disruption and reaction. Wells's views were the naïve product of an earlier era and as we see had many downsides he either never realized or cared about. I wonder what he thought of the contemporary criticism the film's vision of his brand of utopian future received. I doubt he ever gave negative opinions any credence or learned anything from them. Wells died in 1946, after the end of the second world war, and I'm sure he went to his grave believing that his vision was mankind's only hope of salvation.

I've seen this movie off and on since I was a teenager and always knew it represented a goal for Wells, not simply some abstract notion he was just writing about. It's definitely a "message" film, as its final lines ("All the universe or nothing! Which shall it be, Passworthy? Which shall it be?") make clear. The world is not in a great state today but happily we do have choices besides Wells's stark and sterile dictatorship of the airmen. (And they came from Basra?! Try showing Wells Iraq today!)

And you are absolutely right about Aldous Huxley and his thinking behind Brave New World, which was published four years before this film came out. Perhaps it was Wells who was trying to go tit-for-tat with Huxley.

On TTC's architectural influences:

I have seen Time After Time, though not in many years. I don't recall ever hearing that the Hyatt's design was inspired by TTC, but it wouldn't surprise me. Many of the sights in Everytown are quite striking. It's the content that's troubling, including to the point of the little girl and her great-grandfather preferring to live underground instead of on the nasty old surface. Morlocks indeed! Actually, it sounds more like another Rod Taylor time-travel movie, World Without End.

Of course, people could go outside if it was really important, like to destroy the moon rocket and its toga-clad pilot-couple. Perfect attire for spaceflight, not that it matters as they'd never survive being fired out of a cannon anyway. It's little things like that that gave Everytown a bad rap.

By the way, there's a thread here about the supposed accuracy of Wells's predictions in this film. Its title lists a trio of these claimed predictions before invoking the name Nostradamus! I read it and had to comment on its -- sorry -- basic stupidity. You might find it interesting.

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By "striking" I didn't quite mean "good" or architecturally innovative or desirable, merely that the designs leap out at you. These structures are a primary reason why I've called Wells's concepts of his future civilization sterile. I could add dehumanizing as well. (That does sound like a Hyatt, doesn't it?) It's a sparkling clean means of oppressing the human spirit, and ultimately, the individual.

I've read of Wells's dislike of Lang and Metropolis and that he wanted to stay away from such concepts, but in truth those seen in Metropolis were more of a projection of the present (1927) than a truly original concept such as Wells attempted in TTC, and of course in Lang's vision the underground city was the most oppressive, undesirable sector in which to live, the flip side of Wells's conception. I don't know what it is Wells found so compelling about underground life, which as you alluded to conflicts even with one of his own prior works, The Time Machine.

I agree, the issue is not that Wells was wrong in his predictions, only that his preferred utopia was indeed a nightmare he was too blind to recognize. I also agree with your take on the "Which shall it be?" line, but only in part: it's both a sign of human progress and human expansion; the two are seen, not as the same, but as going hand-in-hand. This is a very nineteenth-century attitude of the kind that suffused most of Wells's work and beliefs. Look at the work of, say, American populists and progressives of that era, and we find that at base they held an optimistic belief in the continued betterment of humankind, which was inextricably linked for them with material progress and scientific development, which were essentially part and parcel of the same thing.

Even his "Wings Over the World" comes from a progressive faith in the collective wisdom of mankind that, freed from internecine conflicts, would govern rationally and logically, with justice and material progress natural companions which together would usher in his golden era. Just keep your mouth shut and don't forget the HandiWipes.

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Lots of good observations in both your posts, GG.

You make a very good point about the inverted plot foil between The Time Machine and Things to Come, in the use of a man from the past come to rebuild civilization in the first, vs. one from the future (figuratively speaking) come for the same purpose in TTC. I wonder whether Wells ever realized he was invoking "reverse" concepts in these novels.

I also agree that Wells is not concerned with the "natural world". But this too is very much a credo of the time in which his ideas were formed. In the 19th century it was quite normal for most people to see natural resources (including living things) as fodder for man's expansion and development. Untrammeled growth was essentially seen as a good. The opposition that arose to the advent of the industrial age was based primarily on its effects on the "common man", in having his health and safety and well-being crushed by development. Early progressives and socialists like Wells wanted reform of the system, to protect and respect the worker; they did not question the underlying idea that resources should be exploited, which they believed necessary for the continued betterment of mankind. (Of course there were conservationists who came to the fore in the early 20th century, but while they wanted to preserve some wilderness, even they believed in the exploitation of lands and resources; they simply wanted it managed and regulated so that people shared in the wealth thereby extracted.)

Remember that when the airmen begin the work of rebuilding (the start of the montage sequence), John Cabal (Raymond Massey) is heard in voice-over saying that they would set themselves "to tear out the wealth of this planet." That was very typical of the age in which Wells's ideas were formed. Wells himself never gave much evidence of maturing in his beliefs over the decades; though he died in 1946 his basic philosophies were frozen in the 1890s, when he was a young man and beginning his career in earnest. By the time this movie was made in 1936, Wells was 70, still a Fabian socialist of quaint notions increasingly divorced from the realities of the 20th century. This is probably the main reason why his cold, somewhat fascistic view of a shiny but bloodless future dominated by an arrogant intelligentsia, living underground, divorced from the people they govern as well as from the natural world they inhabit, failed to strike a chord with audiences even then. People weren't interested in his distant, sterile, anti-humanist vision for civilization. Frankly, when I learned that this film got a poor box-office reception in 1936, I was both surprised and relieved. I figured most people would have been suckered into this glittering illusion that was nothing but an alluring death trap for all that is human and creative.

You make an interesting link between Wells's "Which shall it be?", as justification for his myopic vision of the material advancement of mankind, and Ayn Rand's "philosophy", if you care to call it that. I suspect if Wells were alive today he might find some ideas in common with Rand. Certainly his vacuous future society ruled by an elite, dedicated solely to materialistic development and the plundering of the environment, godless (in the spiritual sense of the word) and shorn of its soul, closely reflects much of Rand's warped ideology. Yet Rand elevated the individual in her worship of selfishness, something with which Wells would not be in sympathy. Ultimately Wells believed in community to the point of a common dictatorship, Rand in a completely self-absorbed individual out for himself. To Wells, men were responsible to other men; to Rand, a man was responsible to no one but himself. These two philosophies do not seem reconcilable. Yet paradoxically they share a similar outward vision of the preferred shape they conceive for the future, as well as the means to achieve it.

However, I don't agree that Lang wasn't making a social statement in Metropolis; on the contrary, the film is lousy with social comment, as evidenced by the one word: "Brothers!" Yes, there was more to it than simply "haves vs. have-nots", but that is indeed at the core of Lang's film -- and it's noticeably an aspect largely absent from Wells's story in TTC. If Wells saw Lang's film as social commentary he was quite correct. The problem is that Wells went at it in an even worse fashion. But both films ultimately call for the reformation, indeed the overthrow, of an existing society, or more correctly, of the way of thinking that brought about such a society. Lang's vision of the future is closer to the reality we know today than is Wells's, but that's mainly due to the fact that Wells wrote a deliberately eviscerative, apocalyptic tale, whereas Lang sought to project the development of society in a more linear manner -- extrapolating the present, vs. simply blowing the whole thing up à la Wells.

That said, I agree that art at its best should never be at the mercy or for the purpose of advancing a social or political agenda, for that way lies the destruction of artistic freedom. (Of course, that freedom also means an artist has the right to create art for just such a politicized purpose.) I'm just slightly amazed that you can cite David Cronenberg as a source of wisdom on this matter!

I think Kalat is also wrong when he said Wells failed to realize that war can lead to technological development. Remember in the film Passworthy says that war stimulates progress, and Cabal replies, "Yes, war can be very stimulating. But you can overdo a stimulant." I think this shows that Wells well understood this aspect, but was cautioning that this belief could too easily allow mankind to fall into the folly of war, by believing that in the end more good than bad might come of it. Wells questioned the cost of such progress, and that is not a bad thing to do. His doomsday scenario was in keeping with his fears about war getting the better of mankind and, far from ultimately resulting in material (or social) progress, ending civilization. In the nuclear age, that is surely not an unwarranted concern.

Don't worry about quoting Kalat -- I'll still listen to him at some point. But I'm beginning to wonder just how good he might in fact be!

Oh, you must see World Without End. I forgot it was on TCM this month -- Saturday, May 31 (2014, for anyone who reads this years from now!), at 4:30 PM EDT. It's a medium-budget sci-fi film with modest special effects, but a good one, and the first science fiction picture shot in CinemaScope. It sort of inverts aspects of The Time Machine, but actually I find it more entertaining. No deep thinking, just the triumph of mid-20th-century common sense!

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I've heard for a long time that TTC was a troubled production, in no small way because of H.G., so I will indeed be interested in hearing more of the details in the commentary.

I did know he published his own version of the screenplay but I doubt that had much effect on the film's box office or public opinion about it. After all, how many people ever read Wells's script? It would be neat to learn the differences between the film and his version but I suspect what Welles wrote wouldn't have particularly been an improvement!

Yes, I never thought Lang was prophesying anything in Metroplois, more making a social commentary. If Wells took this as prophecy he was definitely off the mark. But if so it seems clear he was conflating Lang's intentions with his own, because if anyone indulged in attempts at prophecy, it was H.G. Wells. Certainly he intended TTC as a cautionary prophecy...even though it ultimately resulted in the establishment of the kind of world he though so dandy.

Wells was I believe either an atheist or an agnostic. His efforts at drawing any religious symmetry with any of the events on TTC (or The Time Machine) I suppose could be seen as an agnostic's effort at (to use an admittedly oxymoronic term) "secular religious" symbolism. But of course the hymns and church bells in the opening of TTC served a secular as well as religious purpose. Christmas is of course a religious celebration (though that's become somewhat secondary in modern times), but the words we hear in the hymns also have a universal application, in that they sing of peace and brotherhood. It's all very heavy-handed and pummels its message into the viewer's head with all the subtlety and irony of a sledge hammer, but it does brilliantly set the stage for the unreality that is to come.

You're right on the mark that the film has "a strange religious quality to it". I also think there's something to your subsequent observation, "WWII as secular Apocalypse which paves the way for Utopia/Paradise. I wonder, was this a deliberate attempt to relate his ideas to a highly religious public?" I'm not sure the public was so religious that it needed or even cared about any religious symbolism as such. I think it's simply a convenient, culturally familiar way of drawing parallels with which his audience could identify. Though I doubt Wells conceived of his story in this way, one could almost stretch things to see Wells's all-destructive war as akin to the myth of Noah and the great flood that wiped the Earth clean of corruption and laid the basis for a "better" one. Of course, God didn't do so well at that, post-Noah, but it seems H.G. believed he could manage what God couldn't!

I'm no religious or philosophical scholar either, but this conversation is certainly stimulating...Cabal's warnings about such things notwithstanding!

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Were you watching Starship Troopers last night too?! I just happened to catch some of it.

I doubt the fascistic, military-state elements necessary for the kind of societies envisioned in Troopers and to some extent in Robocop would neatly fit into a remake of Things to Come. The other films specifically and deliberately took place within such a context; TTC doesn't, though there are certainly close parallels. The militarist aspect is of course absent from TTC, which is an anti-war tract, and this is an important difference. But I'm sure Wells would have recoiled in horror at the suggestion his utopia resembled Adolf Hilter's plans for his new Berlin.

Still, it's true that in 2036 the governing elite is still ready and willing to use the "gas of peace" to stop the mob heading for the space gun. This is hardly the hallmark of a democracy or society of equals and is clearly totalitarian in nature.

I've often wondered about the choice of "Cabal" as the protagonist's name too. The word did of course mean the same thing, but it's so redolent of the type of society Wells sought -- one run by a cabal of elite scientists and engineers -- that I can't believe he didn't employ the name intentionally. Yet it's always had rather sinister connotations and it's inconceivable Wells looked at Cabal, his fellows or the world they created in a negative way. So overall it is a surprising name to use, unless to Wells a cabal was something to be admired.

I watched some of The Shape of Things to Come a couple of years after it came out. What I saw was stupid and boring and I never finished watching it. It was a low-budget film made I believe in Canada. Other than using the full title of Wells's book that film has nothing whatever in common with this one, so it's really not a remake. It has to do with survivors from Earth living on the moon, but I don't remember many specifics about it. But I suppose I should try to see the whole thing one day. It did get terrible reviews.

"Should I watch the 1936 movie or the 1979 one? Should I take a pass? Is it worthy? Which shall it be?!"

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Well, at least I'm now glad I never bothered to watch the remakes of Robocop and Total Recall. Why would anybody even want to remake those films?

But the concept of TTC being made as a history of that society, with of course a slant about how wonderful the world is today (2036 or whatever) vs. the old world, would be interesting.

Remember how the little girl in ET36 was "studying" history by looking at old film of New York and other places with her great-grandfather? She struck me as a rather obnoxious child (and she sounded much too British upper-class to boot), but anyhow, at one point she tells her great-grandfather, "I'm so glad we don't live in the old world. Things are so much lovelier since John Cabal and his airmen tidied it up." That's only an approximation of her dialogue but I always got a kick out of her idiotic phrase about rebuilding civilization after a global holocaust as "tidying up" the planet. This indicates to me that not only is her history slanted to show how much "lovelier" the world is now than it was then, and give the requisite credit to Cabal and his cabal, but that this kid represents the wider thinking of most of the denizens of ET36, myopic boobs distracted by all the shiny things the world has to offer in place of nature and reality.

Which, however, makes their subsequent rebellion against the space gun so hard to understand. Maybe the education system in Everytown wasn't as effective as they thought.

You're correct that this society does permit people to have their say, but it's still a closed and controlled state with no indication of real freedom -- certainly not to the extent of people actually being able to choose their leadership or its policies. Everytown doesn't have an Everytownhall. But whereas once the gas of peace was used to subdue violent brigands so they could be disarmed without fighting, thereby avoiding bloodshed and allowing peace to prevail, now it's used as crowd control. Sure, you can speak, but start to protest en masse and you'll be gassed.

What I never quite got was just how widespread was the discontent roused by opposition to the space gun. From the looks of things it seems as though most of the citizenry of Everytown bolted out of their caverns to destroy it, leaving only the few people in control (plus, presumably, that kid and her great-grandfather) on the side of "progress". But were these people truly reactionaries? Maybe, in a sense; but weren't they also trying to reclaim something of man's basic nature? While mindless destruction is inimical to what any civil society should stand for, perhaps the mob's deepest motivations (as opposed to their means of expressing them) weren't entirely without merit.

It always struck me that the "progress" so cherished by Cabal and his minions was a myopic conception pertaining strictly to material development. Respect for or appreciation of the natural world, or of deeper needs within man, was absent or merely tolerated. (Cabal says to the protesters, "We do not begrudge you your artistic life," relegating that phase of existence to a secondary, comparatively unimportant status.) It probably even serves the purposes of the governing elites to allow such freedoms in the same way Roman emperors saw to it that there were enough circuses held to distract and amuse the populace. So don't make too much of this "freedom". ET36 was about as free as Putin's Russia, or apartheid-era South Africa.

Although the notion of lobbing a few canisters of the gas of peace at Rush Limbaugh is an attractive idea. Gassing the gasbag.

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Well, the mob isn't a character (outside of Shakespeare!), so it's sort of cardboard-by-nature, but you're onto something in that the characters of 2036 are all basically one-dimensional. Cabal Jr. comes across as a humorless fanatic and the rest are all pretty much un-complex types. But this may have been quite deliberate on Wells's part: he was, after all, writing more about ideas than individuals (with whom he had little concern, other than in a generic, mass sort of way -- wanting to save lives and benefit humanity but not actually having anything to do with actual people -- the way socialists always spoke of "the masses" and "the proletariat", or as Harry Lime said in The Third Man, "the suckers and the mugs -- it's the same thing"). The characters in ET36 represented different forces at work in that world, not people as such. The mob, like all mobs, may be acting in one, unthinking, mind, but then so are the individual characters we meet. There's not much there there.

Odd that Wells, so much more concerned with people en masse than with individuals per se, should concoct a mindless, reactionary mob as a negative "mass' protagonist in TTC. Yet it's also curious that the only fully-realized individuals in the film are the people of 1936 and those of 1970. There's much more character, and characterization, in Passworthy, Dr. Harding, Roxanne, The Boss, even early Cabal, than anything you find in Wells's glittering new Eden. I wonder whether this aspect escaped Wells. Even though you can draw some broader parallels between his 20th-century characters and various ideas or types (e.g., Passworthy with his insipid optimism and refusal to face realities, compared to the widespread head-in-the-sand attitude of much of the real-life public in 1936), these people are still real, complicated individuals. Their successors in 2036 are not.

You caught the drift of my disdain about the so-called "gas of peace", which is indeed an exceptionally Orwellian concept. But asking Wells to be more candid (forthright is the word I'd use) in just what he was contemplating would have required that he admit that his ideal world resorted to force when threatened, just as the old one had, and with no true difference in justification -- self-preservation and power.

This is why I have a problem with this euphemistic "gas of peace": it's just another form of control by the elite. I would prefer the candor, or honesty, of tear-gas to an anesthetic that keeps the population docile, or at least controlled. Besides, I doubt any society would meekly submit to being repeatedly gassed and knocked unconscious by its rulers, no matter how pretty the life they're otherwise permitted to lead. Sooner or later they'd realize it's nothing but a form of control, wielded by people who have power, don't share it, aren't called to account for it, won't yield it voluntarily, and cannot be dislodged from it. The gas of peace is benign only when compared to Zyklon-B.

This connection with Orwell is an important one, even though Wells wrote TTC thirteen years before "1984" was published in 1949 -- a book he never lived to read, as he had died three years earlier. (Wells died the year Orwell's "Animal Farm" was published, so I doubt he ever read that either.) I first read "1984" when I was about 10 and have re-read it several times. Each time I find the book more and more prescient, principally in its discussion of language. Orwell's appendix on "The Origins of Newspeak" is fascinating, and I hope you read that and his other after-chapters, which in many ways are more insightful, and certainly relevant, than the novel proper.

But even when Orwell wrote the book there were already further real-world examples of his dystopia's double-speak. For example, the United States had already changed its Department of War to the Department of Defense (echoed in Oceania's "Ministry of Peace", which, as Orwell wrote, "concerned itself with war"). Totalitarian dictatorships styled themselves "Republics", "People's Republics", or best of all, "Democratic People's Republics", when there was nothing remotely either democratic or republican (small d, small r) about them, and, like Everytown, were certainly not run by or for "the people".

In the years since we've seen hundreds of such examples from government, corporations and pretty much any organization you can name. We are awash in euphemisms, increasingly so when a primary motive is to lull people to sleep intellectually, placing nice- or innocent-sounding names, or using terms which are just out-an-out deceptions (usually laying claim to something opposite to their true nature), on some pretty harsh, unpleasant or difficult concepts. Many conservatives (and also some liberals not in love with bogus forms of expression, such as Bill Maher) carry on about "political correctness", but they often have a point, though they make it solely against those they dislike ideologically, not their own allies. We live in a society which often prefers soft denial and comforting phraseology that neither offends nor informs, to the truth. Orwell saw it all coming, and would I think not be at all surprised (though perhaps, still, dismayed) to see how all-pervasive such linguistic constructs have become.

Humanity of course does not live in a "1984" world (outside of North Korea), but while I take your point that some aspects are closer to Huxley's "Brave New World" than "1984", we shouldn't overstate that simile either. Such parallels as do exist are evident mainly in the western world, where comparative luxury is most widespread, but the vacuous absence of intellect, the drugged-out compliance, seen in "BNW" doesn't pervade our societies -- yet. Given another hundred years on some of the courses we're following, who can say? Huxley's future is indeed much closer to Wells's (though Wells would have been appalled at the comparison), but it's not by any means identical. Lulling people into submission by giving them material luxury can be an effective means of control, but only to a point -- witness the increasing restlessness in China, where a newly prosperous society is stirring against its authoritarian leadership. This is why Orwell's much darker vision, of that "boot stamping on a human face -- forever", of total control without any hesitancy to commit murder or torture to stay in power, may in the long run be a more effective way for elites to sustain their position. They can try the velvet glove approach, including a gas of peace, but in the end even Everytown's mob would boil over in resentment. That's when the right to speak on municipal telescreens is closed off and bullets replace gas.

And with that, we're closer to Metropolis than either 1984 or "Brave New World"...and in the same cycle of governance mankind has seen throughout the ages. There are morally distinguishable relevancies to each of these, but any of them leads to the subjugation of one's fellow man.

One note on the 1984 version of Nineteen Eighty-Four: I liked the look of the film and how close it superficially resembled the world conjured by the novel, but in watching it my chief feeling was of how the film's early promise ended up either missing much of what Orwell conceived (for instance, in the book the Ministry of Love's cells were a gleaming, clean facility, not the grungy rooms in the film, which completely eviscerated Orwell's point of the differences between the rulers and the ruled), or -- in the final irony -- employing its own Orwellian concepts to subvert the author's purpose. Nowhere is this clearer than in the writer-director's decision to substitute Orwell's very explicit (and explicitly explained) use of the term "Comrade" as a form of address, for the more innocent -- and less politically-charged -- "Brother". Obviously the filmmaker decided that saying "Comrade" would be seen as an anti-Communist statement (which was Orwell's intent), and, good British leftist that he was, changed it to something meaningless and ineffectual. Life, it seems, does imitate satire.

I'd also be happy to chat on the board for either film version of the book -- either the 1984 film (whose title is technically spelled out, as above) or the 1955 British film, 1984, which overall isn't as good (or certainly as explicit) as the book or later film but which does in many ways stay truer to the Orwell. By the way, if you haven't read "Animal Farm", do so. It's a short book (about 2-3 hours to read), but there's an enormous amount you can get out of it as well.

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That is a very good and insightful point. The ultimate irony: men doing their enslavers' work for them. And so happily!

To quote Cabal 1970: "Would that I could see our children and our children's children in this world we shall win for them!" Tweeted into mindless, unknowing submission.

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