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did the ending make any sense to anyone? because i'm not sure if you're supposed to understand it or not but it definetly made no sense to me. so if it made sense to anyone an explaintaion would be nice.

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I agree; it was odd. I was having a great time throughout the film, and at the end I was scratching my head a bit. Great film, though.

"Thank you for a lovely evening."

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What didn't make sense? I thought it made fine sense. It wasn't one of the most amazing endings, but I can't see what was so hard to understand about it.

I want to be alone... ~Garbo~

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Nice to see you here, Greta. I love your work. It's been a few weeks now since I saw the film. I wouldn't say that it didn't make sense; it just seemed like an odd way to end it. Romero's about to marry a wonderful woman that he's been in love with for a long time, and when he's cheated out of it, everyone has a big laugh at his expense. I didn't find that funny at all, and all the laughing and carrying on sort of rubbed me the wrong way, even though I didn't particularly like Romero. I thought it was a bit bizarre.

"Thank you for a lovely evening."

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More than bizarre, it was simply out of nowhere. Penny won't marry him because his trousers don't fit? Does that make any sense? Does it not wreak of desperation for an ending? This isn't even a deus ex machina. It was just absurd! Nice dancing though...

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It took me a while to "figure" it out.
Penny realized that she was just being silly by marrying Romero. And the fact that Lucky did something like taking Romero's pants is just like a final "C'mon, Penny, what are you doing? You know you love me."

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Exactly. Even if at one point she had, which I doubt, she doesen't love Romero at all now. This parallels Lucky's engagement to someone that he thought he loved until he met Penny.

And I think Romero wanted Penny more as a trophy than because of actual love--someone he could literally exhibit.

So the nonsense with the trousers made Penny realize how superficial the relationship was.

I do admit the laughter at the end does get forced; they must have been through a lot of takes.

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Romero knew he was getting Penny on the rebound. Might as well laugh, as cry.



You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead.

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Ahem. What about this movie makes sense? Lucky's never losing at gambling unless he wanted to makes sense? Winning and losing the orchestra three times makes sense? Lucky giving up someone he loves because he's "engaged" to someone he knew for one week makes sense? A smart woman like Penny marrying Romero even though she knows Lucky's engagement is off makes sense?

C'mon - this movie isn't to be taken seriously on any level. Think of it like a porn flick - the story is fluff around the main event - the musical numbers and the incredible dancing of Fred Astaire. It's just silly fun.

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aront54 -- Well said, and thanks. My own objection to the final minutes is all the silly laughing. The movie could have ended better. Guess the writers ran out of ideas.

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What you missed about the ending:

Aliens abducted Romero and implanted him with a shape-shifting device in his pants. Then, Fred Astaire rapes Ginger Rogers, who takes out the entire night club with an uzi, while druglord Mendoza meets with a corrupt Senator. The entire scene ends with explosions and nudity, acts of homosexuality, and stupid people vying for first prize of in a "reality" based contest where they are humilated by people with even less talent.

Now, THAT makes sense.

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Technically, Fred Astaire couldn't possibly rape Ginger Rogers because she would always be willing. Therefore, not rape.

And although the laughing made no sense and got forced, I just accepted that the reason the wedding was off was because Ginger realised she just had to marry Fred and not because her fiance's pants were stolen. Besides, that divine duet at the end made me forget all about my puzzlement over the previous few minutes.

~Formerly known as "eowynmaiar".

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The very end is quite beautiful with Ginger and Fred in each other's arms gazing at the snow that is gently falling on the city and singing a duet of "A Fine Romance" and "Just the Way You Look Tonight".

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What didn't make sense? The device of the pants? The fact that every single person ended up in a fit of uncontrollable laughter? Romero's easy-going acceptance of his loss of his fiancee to Lucky? My guess is that Pan Berman, the series' regular director, may have done it a little differently (e.g., let some of the characters gradually enter the laugh-a-thon), but George Stevens appears to like the "all laughing" or "all crying" finale.

I guess a guy without his pants is always funny, and it made Ricardo look like an okay guy, unlike Ralph Bellamy in Carefree, who was a bit of a jerk....

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If I may respectfully correct one thing, it was Mark Sandrich who directed half the films of the Astaire-Rogers series. Pandro Berman was producer.

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I thought that Helen Broderick's laughter was justified. After all, as Penny's older friend, she had seen Penny change her mind several times about Lucky...and in this regard, the plot as more twists in it than the the California Coastal Highway. The underlying problem of course, is that Lucky does not know his own mind...until it's too late....i.e. until Penny chooses the band leader....setting up Fred and Ginger's great dance of parting.

BTW...Unlike all the other Astaire Roger's films, this movie,(and Carefrree), are the only two movies where Fred does not truly know his own feelings towards Ginger.

In the Steven's plot, Fred loses his pants in the beginning of the movie...when his dance team sabotage his marriage, a mis-alliance...then he loses his pants when gambling....and finally Metaxa , the "bad guy" loses his pants, at his wedding to Penny. In effect, the movie is symetrical...both mis-alliances are thwarted through laughter....and the lost pants gag....one at the beginning and one at the end of the film.

It works for me...but I understand if it doesn't work for everyone. Perhaps the problem that this movie is so rich with meanings...and that the denoument comes on the heals of one of the greatest (and most emotional) filmed dances of all time...Astaire and Roger's "Never Gonna Dance". There's hardly enough time to catch one's breath, before Lucky finds out that his fiance does not intend to marry him...and the laughter begins.

Metaxa's performance could have be more nuanced....When Penny sees the rising laughter, Stevens makes several cuts of her reactions...first rigidity...then not knowing whether to laugh or remain stubborn...and finally, her face melts into animated laughter. Perhaps...and I'm not really sure of this... Metaxa's face could have likewise shown an evolution from anger to acceptance. As it is, he turns out not to have been a total ogre...since he accepts Penny's decision to marry Lucky...as the sun comes out through the snow storm.

I agree with all who think that this is one of the most wonderful films ever made....as John Mueller says; "in the history of the universe". I think, the plot is this film is pretty believable and strong really...and the dancing is a gift to humanity from whatever source of grace one believes.

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i haven't seen carefree so i can't comment but i assume its the one thats supposed to end in ginger's character marrying someone who isn't astaire but marries astaire instead? i liked the end of swing time even if all the laughter wasn't particuarly funny but all i could think of when they were by the window was why couldnt it have lasted just 5 minutes more

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What I found peculiar about the ending was Romero's complete acceptance of the situation. He was furiously determined to win Penny's love and clearly had a dislike for Lucky, yet he completely accepted Penny's sudden U - turn against him without a bad word to say. Though I doubt many were too bothered about this, so long as they saw Lucky and Penny unite for good.

"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not".

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I was just glad it was finally over.

Blue as a persimmon in heat.

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