MovieChat Forums > Roberta (1935) Discussion > smoke gets in your eyes

smoke gets in your eyes


loved dunne's version of "smoke gets in your eyes'. anyone know if this song was originally from "roberta'?

cheers.

reply

This great song was written by Mr. Kern, with lyrics by an Otto Harbach for their 1933 Broadway play, "Roberta". My cousin was named for this "Roberta" from this play. I remember it from the 50's group, "The Platters".
BTW: the movie["Roberta"-1935] will be shown on TCM on Dec.13th at 9:30 PM [E]. Irene Dunne doesn't sing this song in the movie, but she sings 3 others; and she is featured 'Star' for Dec. on TCM, and she sings lots of Jerome Kern's songs in the ORIGINAL "ShowBoat"-1936. She is quite an accomplished singer[tried out for the Met], and pianist[her mother was also]... Her Dad was a steamship inspector on the Mississippi River.

reply

thank you kindly kenn_honeyman for the loads of interesting info. i didnt realise 'smoke gets in your eyes' was from the original 'roberta' play.

cheers.

reply

I'm watching Roberta right now and Irene Dunne is singing "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes". Are you saying it's not her singing this song? Dubbed? or...?

reply

She is indeed singing "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes". No dubbing for Irene!

reply

Ms. Dunne did ALL her own singing, AND piano playing,,, she was a graduate of chicago school of Music, and i believe her mom was a trained opera-singer, her Dad was a 'Steamship inspector', and i believe he instilled in her the "ADVENTURE of "LIFE"[where you go in life is UP TO YOU!]... she said she LOVED going up, and down the Mississippi with her Dad...

reply

Roberta is one of my favourite musicals. I watch it all the time. Ginger Rogers was never lovlier. When Ms. Dunne is singing Smoke Get is Your Eyes, there's a beautiful lady looking at her from the table behind Ms. Dunne. I always like to see this lady, we'll neve know her name. I love the song too. And Miss Dunn. I have a grandaughter called Emilee, but I always call her Roberta, since she was a baby. Her little brother calls her "Bubebah".

reply

BTW: the movie["Roberta"-1935] will be shown on TCM on Dec.13th at 9:30 PM [E]. Irene Dunne doesn't sing this song in the movie...

Yes, yes, we all know that Irene Dunn was certainly an accomplished musician, but why did you make that statement that she doesn't sing the song in Roberta???

reply

WOW! In the first few pages of Maureen O'Hara's book "Tis Herself" she said when I would go to the movies I couldn't wait for Irene Dunne to sing! She was a great Actress, great voice and above all a great person. She seems to be getting some well deserved attention, finally! I think the Lovely To Look At song was beautifully done.

reply

i quite agree joanmcgittigan- 'lovely to look at' was so beautifully performed by dunne. what a talented actress!

i prefered smoke gets in your eyes, tho the part where she goes off to talk to her love interest and then later resumes singing gave me quite a chuckle.

cheers.

reply

i've changed my mind! 'lovely to look at' has been stuck in my head for ages so perhaps subconsciously it's my new favourite 'over smoke gets in your eyes'! might i add that dunne was lovely to look at whilst she sang that song?

cheers

reply

Smoke Gets in Your Eyes. I can't find *this* version anywhere to download. Just by the Platters. Bleh.

"Torturing terrorists is like riding a bike. Jack Bauer never forgets."

reply

hallo beautifulletdown- u can listen to irene dunne sing on the youtube but i do not know where u can find a down load.thx kindly to violinthief for this brilliant clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkQU-VQkhGw

jolly nice to see quite alot of people who appreciate her voice as much as i.

cheers all!

reply

Lol. Yeah, I've seen that. I have it on my favorites on youtube. Thanks anyway =)

"Eva Longoria must be a lesbian cause she married a woman."

reply

hallo beautifulletdown i hope u find what u are looking for. quite agree that tune is one of my favourites on the youtube as well.

cheers!

reply

I seem to be a minority of one in saying I was disappointed in Irene Dunne's version of "Smoke gets in your eyes." I thought she sounded like one of those utterly pure, "piercing British-type sopranos" that Anna Russell described. It sounded like she was singing one or two octaves higher than it was written. But the movie was good, and the fashion show was one of the funniest scenes in it. Lifeless models strolling around in acres and acres of shiny fabric trimmed with yards and yards of mink. Another case of Hollywood's trying to cheer up the people in the depths of the Depression.

reply

Everyone, I found an MP3 version of Irene Dunne's version of "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes". If anyone would like it, just message me at [email protected] or leave your contact info here.

reply

I had to mute her--she is awful! I truly believe she was trying to upstage Fred and Ginger--where Ginger is pretending to be a countess, here comes Irene Dunne who is supposedly a real princess, is really the designer behind the fashion house, is supposedly such a wonderful person she also is caring for the ailing owner who nonetheless leaves the entire thing to her nephew with no talent or love for it. Then her little people supposedly beg her to sing for them....ad it's all electric-sounding horribleness. This is box office clout demanding a rewritten expanded part to upstage the others--and send Ginger right off the credits! It said Irene Dunne and Fred Astaire starred in this...no mention of Ginger Rogers...thank goodness for IMDb.

GAG ME WITH A SPOON! It sounded so dubbed--she must have had to record it in a studio with all kinds of electronics--it was bizarre-sounding. But worse, it was out-of-place in a movie with tap dancing and 1930s pop tunes. Romance and dance and here comes the opera singer who supposedly is better than our favorite stars ad is asked to sing some awful sopranos that have nothing at all to do with anything....where is the smoke? Why is there smoke? Obviously, Randolph Scott's character did not like her at all by the end...she sat behind the curtain where her people could adore here, not even greeting the man who gave her half a Paris design house....I wondered if the director and cast hated her by the end as much as I did? She was the princess with new songs written for her new part, but the she was behind a curtain, all alone with her cousin or whatever...kind of a joke on her expanded role?

reply

uh, Irene Dunne was a huge star in the 30s, as big or bigger than Fred and Ginger, especially in 1935. This was only the third film those two did together. From reading about her, she was friends with most every one she worked with and was greatly respected. You may not like her voice, it's not my favorite style of singing either, but they don't make movies up as they go along, especially not when they're redoing a stage play so I think you are projecting your feelings onto the cast and crew of the film.
And believe it, in 1935 just as many or more people went to this flick to see Dunne as went to see Fred and Ginger. She was a great comedienne as well as a popular singer at the time.

reply

cyninbene-149-610489

I don't often disagree this much with another poster, but I think you are very far off.

"This is box office clout demanding a rewritten expanded part to upstage the others"

No. Dunne's songs were in the original Broadway production. It is very possible the musical was bought for her and it was Astaire and Rogers who were fitted into expanded supporting roles.

"is way out-of-place in a movie with tap dancing and 1930's pop tunes."

But the clash of cultures is the underlying theme of the story. Stephanie is a Russian. Hers is the land of Tchaikovsky and Mussorgsky. Of Swan Lake and Boris Godunov. Where the most famous singers of the era were Chaliapin and Nezhdanova. It would really have been out of place if she sang with a jazzy modern style.

It seems to me the point is that Scott and Dunne are both fish out of water who come from different worlds and meet in a city where they are both alien--Paris. Scott has to learn French from scratch. It is Stephanie's third language.

Yes, Dunne's songs are very different in style and feel from the lively American songs Astaire and Rogers dance to, but they should be. "Yesterdays" and "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes" have a somber, soulful sound. (and don't laugh at soulful--note that "Smoke" was an international #1 hit for the Platters a generation later) They are meant to evoke an old world melancholy contrasting to the optimistic, upbeat American songs.

My take is that both Scott and Astaire come from backwater America--what we call today flyover country. Note their reactions to the "revealing" gown. Dunne is a sophisticate, but is still from a country outside the mainstream of the modern world. She is not exactly what we would today call a jet-setter. Claire Dodd is. Despite losing her social position to a political upheaval, Stephanie has managed to carve out a life for herself as a working woman. There is the nostalgic pull of her vanished past, but she has adapted. (aside--she seems much like Scarlett O'Hara in this regard, but has her romantic head screwed on better)

Dunne's singing--I didn't have the problem you had. It is certainly old-fashioned, but should be, and she does a decent job with the songs.

"Smoke Gets in Your Eyes"--note this is Stephanie's big number, but it also is used as a lovely dancing duet with Astaire and Rogers. Music making the thematic point of the joining of the opposites, with Scott and Dunne also getting together in the end.

It is interesting that this mismatched Russian-American couple get together in the end as Russia and America would for the coming war.

reply

I found Irene Dunn's performance beautiful and moving in that scene. She and Ladislaw come to the cafe as honored guests and we discover Stephanie is also displaced Russian nobility. She carries herself with the grace of a princess and sings "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" as a gift to those to whom she represents a lost way of life. When the drunken John tries to make a scene, she does her best to keep it from escalating in order not to disgrace herself or Ladislaw. She goes back to finish the song because it was the dignified way to conduct herself and you can see the restraint she exhibits. Unfortunately she's overcome by emotion and breaks down but it's still with tremendous poise that she clasps her hands together and brings them to her face.

reply

shannonkm2k says > She and Ladislaw come to the cafe as honored guests and we discover Stephanie is also displaced Russian nobility.
We learn Stephanie's background as nobility within the first fifteen minutes of the movie. Lord Henry tells her he ran into her cousin, Prince Peter. She says something about him getting a job then Aunt Minnie says once 'you' titled aristocrats get jobs...

John, of course, has no idea. That's why later in the movie he (and whoever else hadn't been paying attention) thinks she's gone off and married Ladislaw.

She carries herself with the grace of a princess and sings "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" as a gift to those to whom she represents a lost way of life.
She sings the song for the others but it has nothing to do with their lost way of life. The song is about both being in love and lost love. When she starts it she's thinking of being in love. It's sung in a very different tone. She thinks John will be upset with Sophie for wearing the dress and be upset with her. Stephanie has no idea what's happened between them. He's upset but doesn't realize it's because of his feelings for Stephanie. After their encounter the lost love parts of the song are emphasized. Knowing she's lost him, she breaks into tears.

She goes back to finish the song because it was the dignified way to conduct herself and you can see the restraint she exhibits. Unfortunately she's overcome by emotion and breaks down but it's still with tremendous poise that she clasps her hands together and brings them to her face.
She finishes the song because it's still appropriate even though now she does it in a more mournful way. As the song says, smoke gets in your eyes when you're in love because of the fire that burns in your heart. Unfortunately, that same smoke can blind you, causing you not to see things clearly. Likewise, when love ends, the fire burns out, the smoke from the extinguished flame can get in your eyes. Again, you can't see clearly. When people questioned the authenticity of the love early on you were so sure of it but later they joke that you didn't really see things for what they were. Perhaps you romanticized a love that wasn't really there. That's how she's feeling at the end of the song. After all, John is acting like he's upset with her over her mistreatment of Sophie. She doesn't know Sophie's old news. John's upset because he thinks Stephanie doesn't care about him, didn't take him seriously, and has married Stanislaw. They're both blinded by love.


Woman, man! That's the way it should be Tarzan. [Tarzan and his mate]

reply