When he's talking with Marcus, he makes a comment along the lines of Britain being a land of uncivilized people at the time and the idea of whether it will ever become anything more. I wonder if British audiences chuckled at that line when this film was released.
shareIn the First Century A.D., the Roman city of Londinium was already there, and still under construction on the Thames River, and would become known as London about 600 years later.
Under the Roman Empire, the Brits, Scots, Celts, Picts, and other large tribes inhabited the British Isles, and were considered to be barbarians by the haughty "civilized" Romans, even though the Romans by today's standards were nothing more than an empire of barbaric, bloodthirsty butchers themselves.
It's all a matter of perspective, as Edward Gibbon, the author of "Fall of the Roman Empire" will tell you.
Dejael
I think the Romans probably considered most peoples who were not Roman to be uncouth babarians desperate for the kind of civilization that only they could give. Ironically, the British (as well as the other European conquerors) would have the same attitude 2000 years later!
shareI think modern man thinking their more "Civilized" then Rome is what's laughable, allot of things in Ancient Rome where exaggerated including the Arena, truth is rarely did the audience demand the loser by killed.
When the chips are down... these "Civilized" people... will Eat each Other
Truth is, the Romans were about as brutal and uncivilized as they come, regarding arena sports. Often there were no rules, no holds barred, and the blood and guts and gore whetted the jaded appetites of the spectators to see more. And it wasn't only gladiators, Christians, slaves, Africans, and other foreigners who met violent bloody deaths in many Roman arenas in the Empire, but animals too, of almost every species, were used as violent sport victims in Roman arenas.
The ancient Greeks and Egyptians were far more civilized than the Romans were.
Just read up on it in ancient history books.
Dejael
Our modern perception of Rome comes primarily from the point of view of a religion they'd persecuted for 300 years.
All that kind of Barbarism still goes on today, right here in the US, don't try to laugh at comparing Professional Wrestling to the Arena, cause in the Long Run I think people just being stabbed in the act after losing a match probably had it better then most Wrestlers.
The Hellenistic Era was the most civilized Era, Egypt valued Death more then life.
When the chips are down... these "Civilized" people... will Eat each Other
Huh? What? His comment, I guess, must have been a bit of translated Roman. Jeez, why doesn't this guy take lessons in grammar, spelling, and so on? Several of the contributing criticisms of the various movies are similar. Confucious say -- it you can't write, don't write. My last fortune cookie notified me that I would soon be aggravated by ineptitude.
This contributor offered ultra-ineptitude. Send him a book about
Spot. You know -- see Spot run. He'd probably need an explanation.
Under the Roman Empire, the Brits, Scots, Celts, Picts, and other large tribes inhabited the British Isles, and were considered to be barbarians by the haughty "civilized" Romans, even though the Romans by today's standards were nothing more than an empire of barbaric, bloodthirsty butchers themselves.Quaint, laughable stuff. You need to hit the books more.