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Yeah, yeah...it's a Classic. But...


...I still like the original way more. I get that technically Bride is a major accomplishment. The sets are even more awesome than in the original. The makeup was equally creative. The music was iconic and ground-breaking. Acting, for the most part, was top notch.

But the film can be described with one phrase: Over the Top.

The humor, as mentioned elsewhere, was a bit too much. Little people in the bottles? Silly. Minnie's hysterics? Pull it back some, please.

The minimal bits of humor in the original that were confined to Fritz. A hunchback with a foot-long cane? Funny. Rushing up and down the stone stairs in the tower but stopping to adjust his sock? That's a moment I look for with each watching.

To me, the best bit of humor in Bride was the line "give me your hand, Hans!" The film didn't need much of the rest.

Also over the top were the crudely inserted closeup shots of the monster crying. Karloff fully conveyed the monster's emotion without those closeups and fake tears.

Another flaw (IMHO); the monster in Bride kills several innocent people which would seem to make it a bit harder to sympathize with him, although once again, Karloff's brilliant performance pulls it off. Sure, the first murder was Maria's father who'd fallen into the remains of the tower and maybe the monster could have felt threatened, since he'd just been attacked by the mob. (But Whale should have conveyed that.) But throwing the woman into the pit also? Killing the young girl in the woods? Throwing Karl off the tower for no real good reason? All of these are not in keeping with the overall portrayal of the monster as a sympathetic soul. Karloff should have won an award for achieving sympathy for the monster. (That the entire Frankenstein series continues to be so lovingly remembered by many, especially me, is due entirely to Karloff's portrayals in these first two films. Even the monster's limited appearances in the later films are colored by the feelings we first felt from Karloff's brilliant mime performances.)

And then there's Colin Clive. I was able to accept, and more or less enjoy his over-the-top performance in the original. But his whining seemed to be ratcheted up quite a bit in Bride. Enough already.

So, while I understand that Bride is a great sequel, I think the original is the better film.

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I put it on par with the original but for some reason the most memorable part of this movie is the very beginning where Lord Byron is recapping the events of the first film to Mary and Percy Shelly.

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You say "over the top" like it's a bad thing!

Because really, the heightened emotionalism is what separates it from the original, which was kind of flat. "BoF" is Gothic and Romantic in the 19th century sense of those words, it's phantasmagorical and fantastical, and perhaps the heightened emotionalism is the point. The Monster and his Bride can't handle human feelings.

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I see your point.

It is wrong.

(Hahaha, just kidding. I love these discussions.)

The over-the-top comments were primarily aimed at Clive and Whale. I'm good with the monsters. (Except for the tears, which was Whale's doing, I'm betting.)

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I love this film unreservedly, and I love the fact that it's over the top and insane and WEIRD, because most of the 1930s horror films are a ordinary by comparison.

And perhaps the emotionalism is the point, one could say the entire saga is about science and rationalism undone by normal human emotions.

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You seem to forget the comedic role of Frankenstein's father from the first one. He was funny.
"Nothing the Burgemeister has to say could be of the slightest importance."
"He's probably seeing another woman and you just don't want to tell me."
"Setting the place on fire, aye? Let's go up the terrible stairs."

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You're right. The father was certainly included as comic relief, although it's a light comic touch. I personally enjoy the Fritz moments more.

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