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films from 1927 to 1937? what do you think?





I just saw this film and i found it grating. irritating. there were some amusing moments by by and large.


secondly, nothing can be done about this, but i generally can't get past the sound in films from the advent of sound 1927 to about 1937. that period i find the sound shrill and annoying. its better to have no sound in films from the teens for after approx. 1937.

just after that there are some great films, bringing up baby, the awful truth, his girl friday. i love these films.they are gutbustingly hilarious, also carole lombards performance was horrible. just horrible. grating as anything. barrymore was terrific. but i would not watch this film again. but all of the others i certainly would own. but why is this a 5 star movie??

what do you think?

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I thought the same. This film seemed to me overrated. Sure, it's the first screwball comedy and whatnot, blah blah blah, but that kind of thing is mostly of historical interest nowadays. I find it hard to believe that anyone can watch this film for entertainment nowadays, as any of the other comedies you mentioned can be watched.

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I agree with all the above. This film is no 4 star movie by any means!! It milks the same old jokes to infinity. There are some mildly amusing moments here & there. But this could be edited down to an hour, easy. B-O-R-I-N-G.

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This is the stupidest thread in the entire imdb website.

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i love films made between the advent of sound and July 1, 1934. After that, the draconian Production code was being inforced. Luckily, this film was released in May of that year.

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...mostly of historical interest nowadays. I find it hard to believe that anyone can watch this film for entertainment nowadays.


Well I guess you won't believe anything I have to say about it, then. I find myself watching Twentieth Century on DVD once or twice a year, and catch it on TCM from time to time, as well.

I adore this movie as I do most good comedies of the era (and there are plenty more than the 4-5 that are typically mentioned - 1936's Libeled Lady and 1931's Platinum Blonde, to name two). Your era also covers the first seven Marx Bros. movies: The Cocoanuts, Animal Crackers, Monkey Business, Horse Feathers, Duck Soup, A Night at the Opera and A Day at the Races.

Some of the films I'd put in my top 100 come from '27-37, regardless of genre.

I suppose you know best, tho.

"My brain rebelled, and insisted on applying logic where it was not welcome."

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The era mentioned is when my favourite films were made.
Everyone has different tastes, I don't understand why someone would start a thread bashing this film.
You don't like it-fine. Why the negativity? Move on.





Yes, sir, I'm going to do nothing like she's never been done before!

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because that is what a message board is for. to discuss. not only to give glowing fawning praise

20th century was grating. there were better films made during that era

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While I would agree that there are better flims from the era, (I Am A Fugitive From A Chain Gang has one of the era's best endings), I did not think it grating and an enjoyable film.

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I would perhaps suggest reading message boards before actually responding with "blanket" statements.

Where did you read anyone saying "movies prior to '37 suck"?


I said the SOUND from movies between 1927-1937 approx is terrible. Sound films are great, silent films are great.

2. I did mention i didn't like "twentieth century" vastly overatted. added to the fact the sound is shrill and horrific. there are BETTER films from that era. Bringing up baby, Captain Courageous, Holiday, It Happened One Night, Lost Horizon, ....and even though one of my fav films mutiny on the bounty was made in 1935 the sound is not so bad

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To answer to Veikko-Suvanto (You're propably from Finland, Im too hi!xd) I found this movie very entertaining, and of course historically interesting, because the fact is this is the first screwball. Good performances too! 8/10

And also, I love movies from 1927-1937! even earlier ones. I don't find the sound that important, they're old, it's not their fault that time has destroyed their sounds. Of course this doesn't mean that everyone should now love these films, no, but to me this doesn't matter, put subtitles on :P Acting, camerawork, lighting, direction can still be amazing! One of the greatest horror movies in american history were made in that era. Tod Browning's Freaks!

"I never said all actors are cattle; what I said was all actors should be treated like cattle"

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While I agree with you regarding the issue of inferior sound quality in many early-years "talkies," I consider that to mainly be a significant concern in 1929-1931 films, with sound quality having become quite reliable after around that point. This movie's audio quality doesn't bother me in the least, and, in fact, I find it to have good and clear sound.

As for the quality of this movie itself, I love "Twentieth Century," and consider it one of the most genuinely hilarious movies of its or any other era. In fact, I think I personally enjoy it far more than the preferred 1930s movies that you listed. It definitely warrants a 5-star rating. I really don't understand why many people don't seem to "get" its humour, or what's so terrific and side-splittingly funny about it. "Twentieth Century" is over-the-top because it wants and is supposed to be, as it's a story of two divas (originally just one, though Lombard's character evolves into one, as the movie progresses).

I love, love, love old movies, with my personal favourites being from the Silents of particularly the early mid 1920s onward, through "talkies" of into the mid-'40s (but, decidedly, with a preference for Silents, and movies of the first two-thirds of the '30s). Of that date spread, I'm not an enthusiast of movies from 1929 and 1930 or so, as sound then was often really bad, and dialogue very stilted and stagey, with a mastery of good "timing" having not yet come about that "worked" on film. But, by 1931-1932, I consider Hollywood to have finally gotten the kinks pretty well worked out.

I don't find anything about this movie to be either grating or irritating. The only aspect of it that doesn't really do anything for me is the parts involving the little old man, which I thought detracted from the overall hilarious rhythm of the Barrymore-Lombard storyline. Barrymore absolutely "makes" this movie: There's no question, whatsoever, about that. But, I find Lombard to have held her own impressively, too. By no means do I agree with you about anything about her performance having been "horrible."

Of the several movies you personally listed, I lost interest in re-watching those years ago (not that anything's at all wrong with either of them - and I agree they're all entertaining), while "Twentieth Century" is an absolute treat that I happily remain interested in viewing, and always very much enjoy, again and again. I totally "get" it.

I find this movie to hold up magnificently to modern day viewing, and to remain absolutely fresh and refreshing. It hasn't become dated at all, over time.

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hear, hear

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What on Earth makes you think this was the first screwball comedy? Someone may have called it that, but there are any number of movies before it which combined the snappy patter and physical comedy that are the trademarks of the genre. And while there are some early dialogue movies I find grating--as well as some recent films with embarrassing sound editing--Twentieth Century is not one. And I find it impossible to take anyone seriously who thinks Carole Lombard, in one of her finest performances, was no good. It is to laugh.

The script is brilliant. Barrymore is brilliant. Lombard is brilliant. There are fine supporting performances. Twentieth Century is, quite simply, one of the finest films of the twentieth century, while its critics are...something less than brilliant, and with bad taste that leaves a bad taste with others.

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Some of the early talkies have a weakness/tinniness about their sound due to the rudimentary technology available to make them at the time, but I don't think films made in 1934 succumb to this. In fact I would say by about 1932 or 1933 most films with decent budgets have sound that remains adequate for modern viewing (especially if their soundtracks are presented uncompressed).

As for the film, obviously a lot of enjoyment of movies comes down to personal preference and individual tastes and whatnot, but this is one of my favorite comedies of the 30s. Barrymore and Lombard are magnificent as two people who are always acting -- "hams," as it were. Barrymore in particular turns in one of the great comedic performances I can think of. The supporting cast is good too. I find the story of Jaffe's desperate attempts to win Lily Garland back very funny and all the performances pitch-perfect.

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Love the films from this era, but mostly the ones made pre-July 1, 1934, i.e. the pre-Code films. A few favorites: Three on a Match, Baby Face, 42nd Street, Female, Trouble in Paradise. Like 20th Century, these films had so much energy, etc., but mostly knowing, worldly-wise dialogue delivered rapid-fire.

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I am in general agreement with the OP. I don't care for films of the earlier 1930s, both in terms of subject matter and style ("stagey" cinematography and performances and tinny sound, which combined with the often "socially progressive" plots in the pre-Code films produces a queasy effect). Films improved from the late 1930s on, with my favorite period being early postwar (late 1940s-early 50s).

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