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Son of Kong vs. King Kong Lives


Son of Kong was ten times better than the sequel to the '76 vesion King Kong Lives (1986)!

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of course it was. SON OF KONG rules. it's not a great film at all, but it's fun and light and the last half hour has some great WO Brien stop-action battles. KING KONG LIVES was awful. it got too involved with the "evil government" and all that crap, and lessened the effect of the story... which wasnt much in the first place...

i dont know. something about when envirnmentalists are heroes, it just drags a film down, things get too preachy...

i did like Jeff Bridge's in KING KONG, but there were other characters like Jessica Lange and Charles Grodin to balance him out, and vice versa.

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According to Willis O'Brien's widow, O'Brien disliked the film and did nothing more than show up to receive his check. Peter Peterson did most of the animation. Even so, I think that O'Brien probably did some of it. I don't want to go accusing anyone of lying, but I do see O'Brien's signature in some of the work.

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According to both The Making of 'King Kong', by Orville Goldner & George E. Turner (Ballantine Books, 1975), and The Stop-Motion Filmography by Neil Pettigrew (MacFarland and Co., 1999), O'Brien did indeed dislike the film---specifically, its comical tone---and walked off, but after work had begun, so his touch would have been felt. But neither of these have Pete Peterson on that film, and Pettigrew doesn't list any (completed and released) work for him before Mighty Joe Young. What's your source for him, Skye Reynolds? Also the statement from Obie's widow? (That's just a sincere request for information, honest. So many people have read sarcastic attacks into my postings where none was intended that I've gotten paranoid about clarifying them.)

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Pete Peterson was a grip on Mighty Joe Young and professed an interest in animating. O'bie gave him one of the Joe puppets and Peterson animated for a day, in the corner of the studio, having Joe pull a wagon. The animation test was so fantastic that Peterson was hired to be the second animator behind Ray Harryhausen.

Peterson did ALL of the animation of Joe in and around the truck, and did the entire "beautiful dreamer" piano hold up.

Now in Son of Kong, Obie had the same main animation assistant from King Kong, Buzz Gibson. Because of disagreements with Cooper, O'Brien refused to do any animation really and Gibson handled almost all of it.

Ironically, Buzz Gibson auditioned for Mighty Joe Young, but his animation was deemed far too stiff and artificial when compared to Harryhausen's.........

So there ya go.



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Yea, my mistake. Pete Peterson didn't come on the scene until Mighty Joe Young and he only has three films to his name; Mighty Joe Young, The Black Scorpion, and The Giant Behemoth. IMDb lists him as working on The Thing With Two Heads, but that must have been another Pete Peterson as Willis O'Brien's protege died in the 60s, though I don't know the exact date, and that film was done in the 1970s. I'm guessing The Thing With Two Heads was the only film that the other Peterson was a part of and so it was assumed that it was the same Pete Peterson as worked on the earlier films.

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Back to the original topic...

I have always loved Son of Kong...Dont get me wrong, I dont hate King Kong Lives, but its definately one of the worst films in the Kong/Kong-like pantheon of films.






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son of kong is certainly better, mainly because it doesn't completely ruin the ending to the first one like kong lives did


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"Son of Kong was ten times better than the sequel to the '76 version King Kong Lives (1986)!"

And "Citizen Kane" was ten times better than "Freddie Got Fingered."

So, what's your point?

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SON OF KONG was definitely better.

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I hear King Kong Lives is considered to be the worst King Kong movie ever made

Son of Kong was a really good movie to watch

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I started KING KONG LIVES a couple of times, but got so bored I turned it off and watched the original. I did finally see it all the way through, and was still bored, but at least I finished.

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lol classic! Yeah took me 4 or 5 goes to watch A Clockwork Orange, now it's in my all time top 5. :)

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I haven't seen King Kong Lives in about 20 years, but what I remember of it wasn't impressive. Primarily I remember a scene in which two guys are after Kong or Lady Kong and the King snaps one of them in half. (Gross) Then there was the beginning with the whole fake heart transplant which I again found disgusting and too bloody. Granted I was 10 at the time and my opinions of movies and gore within movies has probably changed, but I still have no interest in revisiting KKL for these reasons, in addition to reviews I've seen here on IMDB and discussion boards.

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Easy, Son of Kong.

My opinion:
1. King Kong (1933) Head, shoulders, and torso above the rest
2. King Kong (2005)
3. King Kong vs Godzilla
4. Son of Kong
5. King Kong (1976)
6. King Kong Lives
7. King Kong Escapes

It's a toss up for me which is worse, "Lives" or "Escapes."

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of course its better.



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